has it come to this?

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

finally have an afternoon free at home so spent it listening to martinskidmore's poptops o'2006 --- and find i am v.conflicted on J.COCKER esq.: i kind of think "(cvnts are still) running the world" is a really AWFUL song, dreary and ploddy in sound certainly, and the sentiment, well, this is a perfect case of "why are the ppl who voice my approximate feelings such tw@ts sometimes?"

i used to LOVE "common people" and then i kind of suddenly went off it hugely, and i'm not sure if i've ever liked another pulp song -- JC just seems a moany old git

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[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Something bad happened to his voice between Different Class and now - not sure quite when (though it was kind of horrible at the time of the last Pulp album). Or maybe it's how he uses his voice - a wretched strained non-croon on the ballads.

(Not heard cvnts.)

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I like his voice on the last album! Actually maybe I just like the album, and have given up on his voice. A lot of the best stuff has always practically been spoken-word anyway.

It's one of the things I was thinking about as regards Long Blondes is that I do think they're in the same territory and roughly the same skill lyricwise, but the first time I heard a Pulp song (Lipgloss), I was perky-eared well before he started singing ftb it's a great pop track even just musically.

A Side Question About Pulp

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Who do the 92-94 era Pulp (Pulpintro, His N Hers) sound like? I remember when I heard "Razzmatazz" and "Babies" first, I had an overriding feeling of "Oh this SO reminds me of [x]", where [x] was something on the tip of my brain that I could never quite identify. And then the evanescent not-quite-memory of [x] was overwritten by their Pulpness. So who was I thinking of?

(Something similar happened when I first heard the Knife's "Heartbeats", though the [x] wasn't the same)

Re: A Side Question About Pulp

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

I think this is a very important skill in pop songwriting - the ability to make something that sounds utterly familiar and pushes all your nostalgic buttons but different enough that you can never quite put your foot in it. All songs about growing up too quickly should have this quality.

Re: A Side Question About Pulp

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

My first thought when I heard them at about that time was Scott Walker.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

mark did you hear the songs jarvis wrote for nancy sinatra in er I think it was 04? both are amazing. actually one of them popped up in the top 40 polls the other week, sung by jarvis, and not as good.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

no -- and to be strictly fair to jarvis and pulp here i am by NO MEANS someone who has heard the bulk of the hoover, as britpop 1.0 flourished totally in my music-downtime (ie during and after my time at the wire), so only a little percolated through

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

heh, "J.COCKER" means JOE to me. Imagine my confusion until I got to the second para...

[koganbot]

Mark, why are you talking about the dumbass cunts song when you could be talking about "Before He Cheats" and "Only A Fool"? (On the teenpop thread, when skyecaptain quoted Simon R's lazy P&J remarks about "conscientious generalists" listening to country, I immediately fantasized digging my keys into the sides of Simon's Saab, carving my name into his vinyl seats, and taking my Louisville slugger to his headlights so that maybe, next time, he'd think before he writes.)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

haha well bcz while springcleaning in the kitchen i wz enjoying everything on the CD w/o really knowing what any of it was from the other room except THIS leapt out as awful, and i couldn't imagine who it was -- NICK CAVE? TOM WAITS? -- and when i came to look i wz surprised and disappointed

[nicolars.livejournal.com]

As a rule I like moany old people unless they happen to be someone like Paul Weller. I haven't heard enough of the Jarvis solo stuff to remark upon, though.

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

funnily enough only by reading Martin's mention of Scott Walker and yr post about moany oldies that only NOW it struck me that Scott Walker must be 60 or something. At no point while listening to Tilt did his age register, or a 'not bad for an oldie' thought ever came to me.

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

not 'tilt', but last year's 'the drift'