Jop Tournament Round 1.8

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Here we are again!


[Poll #923143]


Tomorrow - last few fites, Kate Bush in action both real and sampled, plus Britney, Blondie, Sinead and more.

Comments

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I have steeled myself against further heartbreak, in light of you lot tearing my heart out and stamping on it THREE TIMES in the past rounds :(

None of these were particularly hard at all, hesitated over Cyndi v Outkast but GJWHF is no 'Time After Time'.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Only tough one here was Jacko vs Eminem - went for the former as though RSS is grebt it's not as good as 'Without Me', which is the only Eminemem song that could possibly beat Billie Jean.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I would also have voted for My Name Is...

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

The only one that I needed to think twice about here was Missy vs Van Halen, Missy is awesome but Jump is one of the most joyously stupid records ever.

I didn't particularly want to tick Cannonball but I really don't think Papa Don't Preach is anything special especially by Madge standards.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

MATT I HATE YOU, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THESE BAD THINGS HAPPENING, YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY AND DELIBERATELY VOTED WRONGLY AT EVERY TURN

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Seedings:

Cannonball 30, Cyndi 14, Billie Jean 22, Missy 6

Decisions:

Matt is right about Papa Don't Preach - it's never been a favourite, nor has "Cannonball" really but in this context it feels fresher.

Cyndi vs Outkast - went for Outkast here, very close though. One song I like more than I used to, one less.

Bored of Billie Jean now, thx.

"Work It" beats "Jump" cos of the elephant noise.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

jump beats work it bcz of the eddliephan t'halen noise!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I'm looking at the initial scores and I think I need to find a corner to cry in, this is insult on top of salt rubbed into injury :((((((((((

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

Oh god the elephant noise! I actually think Work It would have beaten every other song here hands down for me, including Billie Jean, which makes it even more frustrating it's been drawn against jump.

Papa Don't Preach

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Was this the first time Madonna got repped critically, because she'd started singing "about" something? Or was she well-thought-of before?

Re: Papa Don't Preach

[sbp.livejournal.com]

Madge has a critical reputation?

Re: Papa Don't Preach

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/nylpm/2005/01/the-ft-top-100-songs99-madonna-papa-dont-preach/

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I hadn't seen the video for Cannonball (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iK30kW6JssI) before. It's not very good.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

but...it...has...a CANNONBALL in it...

[boyofbadgers.livejournal.com]

I am mildly surprised at the current postions of Cannonball and Papa Don't Preach. Even if I hadn't heard Cannonball at every single ruddy indie disco I ever attended, I'd still rate PDP way above it. It's all abt the strings, innit?

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Hating things because you hear them too much = indie :) Actually, voting for Madonna tracks because they're Madonna tracks (as several people are certainly doing) is what makes Madge the flag-bearer of indie here.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

'Papa Don't Preach' is like...my third favourite Madge single ever. Or fourth. I like 'Cannonball' but there are about TWENTY Madge singles which are better than it. wrt to PDP - the music is better, the energy is better, Madge sells an emotional situation far more effectively.

[mcarratala.livejournal.com]

Some of us have had the good sense not to go 'indie discos' in over a decade, and thus can vote for Cannonball without any nasty associations...

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

I voted for Madge because although I only like Papa Don't Preach, and I'm a bit fed up of Madonna in general, I HAVE NEVER LIKE CANNONBALL. Nor have I ever understood why people like it!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

It's a classic big beat track!

It's about style points

[koganbot]

I want to say that all of my votes today were Poptimist votes, since Poptimism isn't determined by what you vote for but rather the style with which you vote for them. Today, I was typing in a Poptimist style, hence all my votes were Poptimist.

I JUDGE THAT...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

... this poll is a poptimists poll = all these votes are poptimist votes

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

i voted for the older song in every case :-(

i voted against cannonball!

cannonball has NEVER been played at poptimism.

just saying like

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

has Van Halen?

'Cannonball' is much better than any mash-up featuring 'Cannonball' (but then i hate Skee-Lo, the dorky loser)

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Tom I have a really good idea for a STAT we could calculate (or er maybe not, I certainly couldn't) - for the Jackin' Pop poll there was some kind of calculation someone did whereby you could see which other voters are Most Like You, who voted in the same ways you did. A similar exercise with these polls would enable us to ascertain who should be CAST OUTbe very fascinating!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

That would be interesting yes (and I did similar things for focus groups) - the problem is it involves a vast amount of data entry.

Maybe for Valentines Day I will do a Poptimists Compatability Poll though.