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poptimistsTwo things said by the Lex on the Poptimists chart thread:
"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."
"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"
Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?
(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)
(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)
"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."
"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"
Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?
(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)
(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:17 pm (UTC)Tomorrow's poll: what is the most obviously indie band that you will claim is not indie?
(anyway indie and pop are completely NOT EXCLUSIVE categories)
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:19 pm (UTC)Admittedly Elastica's 2nd album = k-indie despite having more electro-beepiness.
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:12 pm (UTC)(Memphis is one of the labels at work)
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:52 pm (UTC)Ladyflash: Avalaches
Feelgood by numbers: drums, pianner, harmonica again - practically a B&S song
The Power is On: Langely Schools hiphop
Get it together: banjo, flute & live drumming = indie
Junior Kickstart: Indie
Air Raid GTR: Sukrat
Bottle Rocket: Hiphop
Friendship Update: Slow Indie
Huddle Formation: Indie track with chanting over it = The The for 2000s!
Everyone's a VIP To Someone: banjo + harmonica + clip-clop percussion
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:20 pm (UTC)Arab Strap are not in this category.
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Date: 2006-01-31 04:24 pm (UTC)Arab Strap
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