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[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Two things said by the Lex on the Poptimists chart thread:

"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."

"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"

Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?

(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)

(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)

Comments

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Oh dere god they are all indie beyond belief! I've not heard much of the former apart from 1 or 2 songs but B&S def sound miserable more often than they sound bouncy.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but they also have songs where they're just pegging it along having fun, EG Boy With the Arab Strap, Lazy Line Painter Jane. I mean, it may not be Whigfield Fun, but people have fun in a lot of ways.

Arab Strap are not in this category.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Oh dere god I got THE FEAR watching A.S. at Reading 2001. Or was it 2002. It was either them or the Manics...

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Bittersweet = a common ground between 'indie' and 'pop', often.

Arab Strap

[boyofbadgers.livejournal.com]

Except on the new album they DO occasionally sound like they are having fun!