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[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Two things said by the Lex on the Poptimists chart thread:

"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."

"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"

Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?

(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)

(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)

Comments

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

opo = pop (it always was!)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

this is the thing, I think The Go Team's tracks become pop by virtue of co-opting multiple influences and keeping it hooky. but then scores of Indie bands have done this at one point or another...oh the mad futility of this discussion...there's no point saying that a track ft. banjo or flute just can't be a good pop track surely. but granted much of the discussion/argument here is rather pointless.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

All I was listing were indie bands who appear to be enjoying themselves, I didn't mean to imply anything about whether or not they're pop (Go! Team definitely are!)