Yeah, went back and listened again and none of them held my attention that well: the best one was the "could it be magic" one. Mostly I think it's his stuttery flow, which he also does on this new #1, only Amelle B takes half the track so it doesn't bother me so much.
Totally understand that there's a wider issue here - this electro thing has become the way UK MCs (male ones anyway) break through and sell stuff, and that narrows the options for other sounds. Tinchy seems particularly unsuited to it, though I seem to not like him much on anything so maybe I just don't like him.
On the other hand I can't think of a British urban music that's had as much promotion, hype, critical acclaim, respect etc as grime, and if it hasn't crossed over by now that's because it was never going to cross over.
I don't really have a problem w/electro per se, it's just that Tinchy's version of it is SO cheesy and embarrassing, and it doesn't play to his strengths in the slightest (which as you say are limited - no one thought Tinchy was a viable star on this level at all until it actually happened). It's not about "grime" either given that most grime MCs are off doing other things, from funky to electro, in 2009. I mean, I don't really think many of those tracks I linked are that grimy! 'Hands Of Time' is reggae, 'Dance 4 Now' is bassline/electro, 'Princes' is art-rock...
yeah i just don't like Tinchy much as a pop MC - there's nothing in his voice that grabs me, so regardless of the genre/production style of his tracks now i just find him pretty dull and feel like his success is "undeserved" on that basis. Dappy's chorus line was the best thing about 'Number One' really (not that it was that great itself).
obv the track he's on with Toddla T and Mr V is great but more for them than him imo.
Oh I'm happy for his success, it's basically really heartening on every level except, er, the musical. Strong element of paving the path, too, which I have to approve of.
looking back to the chart positions of 'Pow' and 'Oi' tho, Grime did have it's day in the mainstream sun, it's just that expecting that to be sustainable was unrealistic (as it was with Jungle...and even Bassline).
Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:05 am (UTC)Totally understand that there's a wider issue here - this electro thing has become the way UK MCs (male ones anyway) break through and sell stuff, and that narrows the options for other sounds. Tinchy seems particularly unsuited to it, though I seem to not like him much on anything so maybe I just don't like him.
On the other hand I can't think of a British urban music that's had as much promotion, hype, critical acclaim, respect etc as grime, and if it hasn't crossed over by now that's because it was never going to cross over.
Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:29 am (UTC)Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 12:03 pm (UTC)"hata" sez
Date: 2009-08-10 11:30 am (UTC)obv the track he's on with Toddla T and Mr V is great but more for them than him imo.
Re: "hata" sez
Date: 2009-08-10 11:38 am (UTC)Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:32 am (UTC)