It might just be the fact I've been listening to the mighty Crowded House all morning but really what the fvck is that Girls Can't Catch song? I mean honestly. It just ...it's the distilled sound of the bits of Xenomania that are somehow key to their sound but irrelevant to the music and I don't even know if they wrote it. Also, video is embarassingly rub; I'll dig it up in a minute.
Haven't heard the Tinchy/Amelle but suspect will be horrified, no idea who Ian Carey is.
I forgot leadsingerygirl also does that annoying Pixie Lott-style oversing 'I HAVE A BIG VOICE' thing, even though she REALLY DOESN'T.
Also, next video I see about girls beating up boys on some level I am going to SET FIRE TO SOMETHING. Not a boy, obviously. It's just so c0cking embarassing. I think in this sense Girls Can't Catch may have quite a lot of barriers to overcome before I crack and iTunes their album, as with the Sats. (Who I quite like these days, to be fair)
I went to listen to the Tinchy and it sounded fine but I can't remember anything about it, other than that Amelle FTS has a nice voice and Tinchy Stryder doesn't really. Better than "Number One" which has shrunk on me something drastic.
Good god what an awful name/song/video/band. On hearing that Goldfrapp intro get reused AGAIN I actually literally did a facedesk.
Unfortunate for them that I heard this while in the midst of an Electrik Red splurge. Girls Can't Catch never stood a chance. Honestly they just sound so impossibly amateurish, limited and pointless next to what Electrik Red are doing. And yet which of those acts appears to have a semi-viable career. This is why I hate people.
I just discovered that the incredible 'Electrik City', which I'd thought was a leaked demo which inexplicably never made the Electrik Red album, was actually their first single from a Darkchild-helmed false start three years ago, and it has A VIDEO.
- A+ stuff all round - impressively, a consistent aesthetic w/what they're doing now - the vision is clearly the group's and they haven't diluted it in any way - 'Electrik City' could easily fit on How To Be A Lady - god, that swelling bass and those whispers just slay me
One day I will actually get people to listen to his excellent older tracks that I posted here (http://community.livejournal.com/poptimists/660550.html) when he first started getting hits with this APPALLING, CHEESY, TREBLY ELECTROSHIT direction.
Tinchy Stryder going sh1t has actually seriously impaired my ability to like grime because it makes me so angry that ARGH WHY ARE THEY ALL DOING THIS? Wiley I feel fine with because he's Wiley and he could shit in a box and put it out and I'd still really like it and also he has done several amazing things recently but basically everyone else is making me WEEP.
AWESOME. AWESOMEAWESOMEAWESOME. I lovelovelove Darkchild anyway but ...ARGH, AWESOME. I wonder if there's any of the rest of that incarnation kicking around?
Also: interesting that it's their aesthetic. Really have to write that 'Electrik Red Are Girls Like Me' thing sooner or later.
Yeah, went back and listened again and none of them held my attention that well: the best one was the "could it be magic" one. Mostly I think it's his stuttery flow, which he also does on this new #1, only Amelle B takes half the track so it doesn't bother me so much.
Totally understand that there's a wider issue here - this electro thing has become the way UK MCs (male ones anyway) break through and sell stuff, and that narrows the options for other sounds. Tinchy seems particularly unsuited to it, though I seem to not like him much on anything so maybe I just don't like him.
On the other hand I can't think of a British urban music that's had as much promotion, hype, critical acclaim, respect etc as grime, and if it hasn't crossed over by now that's because it was never going to cross over.
I'm really into the Tinchy/Amelle: it's a cooing, soft, big-hearted, romantic track and there's always a place in my heart for rap artists willing to be that wide-eyed. Just pretty.
I don't really have a problem w/electro per se, it's just that Tinchy's version of it is SO cheesy and embarrassing, and it doesn't play to his strengths in the slightest (which as you say are limited - no one thought Tinchy was a viable star on this level at all until it actually happened). It's not about "grime" either given that most grime MCs are off doing other things, from funky to electro, in 2009. I mean, I don't really think many of those tracks I linked are that grimy! 'Hands Of Time' is reggae, 'Dance 4 Now' is bassline/electro, 'Princes' is art-rock...
yeah i just don't like Tinchy much as a pop MC - there's nothing in his voice that grabs me, so regardless of the genre/production style of his tracks now i just find him pretty dull and feel like his success is "undeserved" on that basis. Dappy's chorus line was the best thing about 'Number One' really (not that it was that great itself).
obv the track he's on with Toddla T and Mr V is great but more for them than him imo.
If you haven't heard How To Be A Lady: Vol 1, their Dream-produced debut full-length and by ALBUM OF THE YEAR by approx several hundred miles, you need to! It probably won't be getting a UK release because people are fools, but it's ~out there~ on the internet.
looking back to the chart positions of 'Pow' and 'Oi' tho, Grime did have it's day in the mainstream sun, it's just that expecting that to be sustainable was unrealistic (as it was with Jungle...and even Bassline).
I've heard a few cuts from it here and there - "Drink In My Cup", I recall - but nothing grabbed me yet as immediately as this. In context of this though, will def. take a closer look.
Oh I'm happy for his success, it's basically really heartening on every level except, er, the musical. Strong element of paving the path, too, which I have to approve of.
Oh, yeah, saw the video for that yesterday on The 4Music Hits Factory (or whatever they're calling it these days). It doesn;t seem to have left much impression, except that the video featured evil clowns.
Three out of three ticks, which may be a first for Yet Another Year, though this isn't cause for wild celebration, and I like the so far uncommented-upon Ian Carey best of the three:
Tinchy Stryder f. Amelle Berrabah "Never Leave You": Quite pleased with the peppiness and poppiness of the nonstop background tune but it's not showing Tinchy or Amelle to good advantage. This is good enough for a tick but I wish they'd found an arrangement that gave rapper and singer some space. TICK.
Ian Carey Project "Get Shaky": Fast rhythm, strong guitar, the singing is effectively - what's the word for it - tremulous. A girl, an ache, and a beat: Music! TICK.
Girls Can't Catch "Keep Your Head Up": The woman's deep voice is powerful, juxtaposed with the bass throb; the chorus takes me by surprise, gets showy, pulls an attention-getting chord shift. The track is way too undifferentiated from here on, all rev-it-up, but that odd chord change hooks me every time, even if overall this track doesn't come close to the rough promise of its opening. TICK.
warning: hungover and misanthropic
Date: 2009-08-10 10:21 am (UTC)Haven't heard the Tinchy/Amelle but suspect will be horrified, no idea who Ian Carey is.
fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:25 am (UTC)I forgot leadsingerygirl also does that annoying Pixie Lott-style oversing 'I HAVE A BIG VOICE' thing, even though she REALLY DOESN'T.
Also, next video I see about girls beating up boys on some level I am going to SET FIRE TO SOMETHING. Not a boy, obviously. It's just so c0cking embarassing. I think in this sense Girls Can't Catch may have quite a lot of barriers to overcome before I crack and iTunes their album, as with the Sats. (Who I quite like these days, to be fair)
Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:35 am (UTC)Moggy did you read the GAMMA WOMEN thing I linked to :)
Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 10:37 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:38 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:41 am (UTC)Unfortunate for them that I heard this while in the midst of an Electrik Red splurge. Girls Can't Catch never stood a chance. Honestly they just sound so impossibly amateurish, limited and pointless next to what Electrik Red are doing. And yet which of those acts appears to have a semi-viable career. This is why I hate people.
I just discovered that the incredible 'Electrik City', which I'd thought was a leaked demo which inexplicably never made the Electrik Red album, was actually their first single from a Darkchild-helmed false start three years ago, and it has A VIDEO.
- A+ stuff all round
- impressively, a consistent aesthetic w/what they're doing now - the vision is clearly the group's and they haven't diluted it in any way - 'Electrik City' could easily fit on How To Be A Lady
- god, that swelling bass and those whispers just slay me
Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 10:43 am (UTC)Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 10:45 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 10:47 am (UTC)Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 10:49 am (UTC)sexy, unsubtle
Date: 2009-08-10 10:54 am (UTC)Also: interesting that it's their aesthetic. Really have to write that 'Electrik Red Are Girls Like Me' thing sooner or later.
Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:05 am (UTC)Totally understand that there's a wider issue here - this electro thing has become the way UK MCs (male ones anyway) break through and sell stuff, and that narrows the options for other sounds. Tinchy seems particularly unsuited to it, though I seem to not like him much on anything so maybe I just don't like him.
On the other hand I can't think of a British urban music that's had as much promotion, hype, critical acclaim, respect etc as grime, and if it hasn't crossed over by now that's because it was never going to cross over.
no subject
Date: 2009-08-10 11:16 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:25 am (UTC)And an Uptown Top Ranking cover to boot?
AMAZING.
AMAZING AMAZING.
Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:29 am (UTC)"hata" sez
Date: 2009-08-10 11:30 am (UTC)obv the track he's on with Toddla T and Mr V is great but more for them than him imo.
Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:30 am (UTC)Croquet.
Rubbish dump.
Egads, why?
Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:31 am (UTC)Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 11:32 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:34 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:34 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:35 am (UTC)Drink In My Cup (http://videos.onsmash.com/v/bIH3Lab4eCSGssNM) (my video of the year)
Friend Lover (http://videos.onsmash.com/v/f8Yas2G7l3h3UwM7)
Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:36 am (UTC)Re: "hata" sez
Date: 2009-08-10 11:38 am (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 11:47 am (UTC)I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 11:51 am (UTC)The only decent New Entry is missing!*
*i.e. "Funhouse"
Re: Tinchy
Date: 2009-08-10 12:03 pm (UTC)Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 12:04 pm (UTC)Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 12:07 pm (UTC)Re: fvck's sake
Date: 2009-08-10 12:11 pm (UTC)Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 12:12 pm (UTC)Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 12:49 pm (UTC)Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL
Date: 2009-08-10 02:15 pm (UTC)Not that obviously I sit around dicking about with polls all day...
All you need to make a record is a girl, an ache, and a beat
Date: 2009-08-12 07:34 pm (UTC)Tinchy Stryder f. Amelle Berrabah "Never Leave You": Quite pleased with the peppiness and poppiness of the nonstop background tune but it's not showing Tinchy or Amelle to good advantage. This is good enough for a tick but I wish they'd found an arrangement that gave rapper and singer some space. TICK.
Ian Carey Project "Get Shaky": Fast rhythm, strong guitar, the singing is effectively - what's the word for it - tremulous. A girl, an ache, and a beat: Music! TICK.
Girls Can't Catch "Keep Your Head Up": The woman's deep voice is powerful, juxtaposed with the bass throb; the chorus takes me by surprise, gets showy, pulls an attention-getting chord shift. The track is way too undifferentiated from here on, all rev-it-up, but that odd chord change hooks me every time, even if overall this track doesn't come close to the rough promise of its opening. TICK.
Re: this poll
Date: 2009-08-17 09:58 am (UTC)Re: this poll
Date: 2009-09-01 02:48 pm (UTC)