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Having just remembered Kat's away, I shall do my part for ensuring our workplace is primarily used for creating polls-

[Poll #1442013]

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
O GOD the "we are confident gurls WALKING TOGETHER" video thing is such a cliche.

Moggy did you read the GAMMA WOMEN thing I linked to :)

Date: 2009-08-10 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
I went to listen to the Tinchy and it sounded fine but I can't remember anything about it, other than that Amelle FTS has a nice voice and Tinchy Stryder doesn't really. Better than "Number One" which has shrunk on me something drastic.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
It won't help. With anything in the world.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Good god what an awful name/song/video/band. On hearing that Goldfrapp intro get reused AGAIN I actually literally did a facedesk.

Unfortunate for them that I heard this while in the midst of an Electrik Red splurge. Girls Can't Catch never stood a chance. Honestly they just sound so impossibly amateurish, limited and pointless next to what Electrik Red are doing. And yet which of those acts appears to have a semi-viable career. This is why I hate people.

I just discovered that the incredible 'Electrik City', which I'd thought was a leaked demo which inexplicably never made the Electrik Red album, was actually their first single from a Darkchild-helmed false start three years ago, and it has A VIDEO.



- A+ stuff all round
- impressively, a consistent aesthetic w/what they're doing now - the vision is clearly the group's and they haven't diluted it in any way - 'Electrik City' could easily fit on How To Be A Lady
- god, that swelling bass and those whispers just slay me

Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
One day I will actually get people to listen to his excellent older tracks that I posted here (http://community.livejournal.com/poptimists/660550.html) when he first started getting hits with this APPALLING, CHEESY, TREBLY ELECTROSHIT direction.

Re: Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
I listened to some of them Lex and they also sounded fine - similarly 6/10 but in a different genre.

Re: Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Yeah, went back and listened again and none of them held my attention that well: the best one was the "could it be magic" one. Mostly I think it's his stuttery flow, which he also does on this new #1, only Amelle B takes half the track so it doesn't bother me so much.

Totally understand that there's a wider issue here - this electro thing has become the way UK MCs (male ones anyway) break through and sell stuff, and that narrows the options for other sounds. Tinchy seems particularly unsuited to it, though I seem to not like him much on anything so maybe I just don't like him.

On the other hand I can't think of a British urban music that's had as much promotion, hype, critical acclaim, respect etc as grime, and if it hasn't crossed over by now that's because it was never going to cross over.

Date: 2009-08-10 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
I'm really into the Tinchy/Amelle: it's a cooing, soft, big-hearted, romantic track and there's always a place in my heart for rap artists willing to be that wide-eyed. Just pretty.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Holy CRAP.

And an Uptown Top Ranking cover to boot?

AMAZING.

AMAZING AMAZING.

Re: Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I don't really have a problem w/electro per se, it's just that Tinchy's version of it is SO cheesy and embarrassing, and it doesn't play to his strengths in the slightest (which as you say are limited - no one thought Tinchy was a viable star on this level at all until it actually happened). It's not about "grime" either given that most grime MCs are off doing other things, from funky to electro, in 2009. I mean, I don't really think many of those tracks I linked are that grimy! 'Hands Of Time' is reggae, 'Dance 4 Now' is bassline/electro, 'Princes' is art-rock...

"hata" sez

Date: 2009-08-10 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
yeah i just don't like Tinchy much as a pop MC - there's nothing in his voice that grabs me, so regardless of the genre/production style of his tracks now i just find him pretty dull and feel like his success is "undeserved" on that basis. Dappy's chorus line was the best thing about 'Number One' really (not that it was that great itself).

obv the track he's on with Toddla T and Mr V is great but more for them than him imo.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
As Popjustice person keeps saying.

Croquet.

Rubbish dump.

Egads, why?

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
If you haven't heard How To Be A Lady: Vol 1, their Dream-produced debut full-length and by ALBUM OF THE YEAR by approx several hundred miles, you need to! It probably won't be getting a UK release because people are fools, but it's ~out there~ on the internet.

Re: Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
looking back to the chart positions of 'Pow' and 'Oi' tho, Grime did have it's day in the mainstream sun, it's just that expecting that to be sustainable was unrealistic (as it was with Jungle...and even Bassline).

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
More Electrik Red tasters! Given that we haven't really talked about them on Poptimists and better this than Girls Can't Sing.





Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
I've heard a few cuts from it here and there - "Drink In My Cup", I recall - but nothing grabbed me yet as immediately as this. In context of this though, will def. take a closer look.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Ugh, Onsmash videos inexplicably not embedding.

Drink In My Cup (http://videos.onsmash.com/v/bIH3Lab4eCSGssNM) (my video of the year)
Friend Lover (http://videos.onsmash.com/v/f8Yas2G7l3h3UwM7)

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Let's just have a full-on Poptimists thread for 'em, shall we? Mass video/audio stream pimpage and general drooling. It'll be great.

Re: "hata" sez

Date: 2009-08-10 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Oh I'm happy for his success, it's basically really heartening on every level except, er, the musical. Strong element of paving the path, too, which I have to approve of.

Re: fvck's sake

Date: 2009-08-10 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
still can't believe this came out three years ago and no-one seemed to pick up on it (don't recall mention of it on ILM either)

I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL

Date: 2009-08-10 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Please delete thread and start again.

The only decent New Entry is missing!*

*i.e. "Funhouse"

Re: Tinchy

Date: 2009-08-10 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
But it's kinda sweet how cheesy it is, I feel. I find myself charmed by his unabashed pursuit of rom-com style smoochy emotion.

Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL

Date: 2009-08-10 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, saw the video for that yesterday on The 4Music Hits Factory (or whatever they're calling it these days). It doesn;t seem to have left much impression, except that the video featured evil clowns.

Re: I AM BOYCOTTING YR POLL

Date: 2009-08-10 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
You could edit in a second seperate poll just for Pink.....
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Three out of three ticks, which may be a first for Yet Another Year, though this isn't cause for wild celebration, and I like the so far uncommented-upon Ian Carey best of the three:

Tinchy Stryder f. Amelle Berrabah "Never Leave You": Quite pleased with the peppiness and poppiness of the nonstop background tune but it's not showing Tinchy or Amelle to good advantage. This is good enough for a tick but I wish they'd found an arrangement that gave rapper and singer some space. TICK.

Ian Carey Project "Get Shaky": Fast rhythm, strong guitar, the singing is effectively - what's the word for it - tremulous. A girl, an ache, and a beat: Music! TICK.

Girls Can't Catch "Keep Your Head Up": The woman's deep voice is powerful, juxtaposed with the bass throb; the chorus takes me by surprise, gets showy, pulls an attention-getting chord shift. The track is way too undifferentiated from here on, all rev-it-up, but that odd chord change hooks me every time, even if overall this track doesn't come close to the rough promise of its opening. TICK.

Re: this poll

Date: 2009-08-17 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
OK, now the injustice has finally been rectified, back to this poll ... aaaaand ...it's Don't Like Any. After all that.

Re: this poll

Date: 2009-09-01 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Done a 90, if not a 180, on Tinchy and Ian Carey. Both now get ticks on the 5/10 = tick rule.

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