Jop Tournament Round 1.7

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Nothing hugely dramatic in yesterday's fites - possibly today's will generate more conflict!


[Poll #921728]


Tomorrow: Breeders, Jacko, Eminem, and more from Madge.

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Seedings: TLC 28, Smiths 12, Britney 20, Destiny's 4.

Decisions:

TLC is iconic, and not overplayed in the way G'n'R is, but "Sweet Child" is more liberating and joyful, and I'm in a good mood today.

Daft Punk is my favourite single ever blah blah. I can see it falling to the Smiths tho.

Britney v Madonna - very hard. "Vogue" is M. at her most regal and wittiest whereas "Oops" is a gauche, but seriously charming, re-run of "...Baby". Typing this I can't even remember which I ticked!

"Say My Name" vs "Love Will": unlike some here I rly like "Love Will", but the Destiny's Child song covers kinda the same territory with so much more drama and heart (and the music's way more dynamic). Easy tick and I'd love to hear anyone's reasons for preferring JD here.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

'Sweet Child O' Mine' is one of the least liberating and joyful things I have EVER HEARD!!!!!! It is an AWFUL NOISE - even 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' is happier because there is at least the bossa nova cover.

I can't believe you ticked it over TLC :((((((((

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

you hazven't actually heard it lex, you are just YAPPING GEIR-STYLE

tom is right, it is a really sweet song, however TLC are better

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I have heard it now, I looked it up on youtube after it beat whatever song it beat undeservedly last time :(

He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

There was a disco or house cover or something, I'm sure. I can't testify as to whether this is it because I don't have sound at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6WilGlFWQ

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

There is a version by Schmoof or Smooch or whatever they're called. It was rub as well.

on the contrary it = TEH AWESOME

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

... and made me fink schmoof were actually any good when not coverin GnR songs, which is sadly false

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[koganbot]

Sweet Child over No Scrubs: Sweet Child is like the eighth best song on Appetite if even that, but I love Appetite; reason for not loving "Child" as much as some others is that it's a slow ballad and I generally don't like slow ballads. Best part is Axl's stretching the words on "where do we go, where do we go now," 'cause he actually doesn't know where to go. Kat, GN'R are naive and ignorant, but they're not stupid. This is the love ballad in the land of confusion, which makes it more interesting than 80% of other love ballads, since he's not promising her devotion he's promising to join her on a desperate journey to who knows where/nowhere. GN'R cops a rock stance and then unexpectedly (unexpected by me in '88, 'cause I truly thought rock was ready for the scrap heap by then), brings back analytic smarts of Dylan-Stones-Stooges-Ubu. Except they do it way better in "It's So Easy," in which he criticizes trees and phone poles and oncoming traffic for not running into him when he's driving drunk. Wants engagement, not getting it from the world, tries to get it from a girl. As for "No Scrubs," I love writers-producers Kandi-She'kspere '99 for their romantic journey across the measure bars, and for the ethereal harpsichords that accompany them; unfortunately it's TLC not Kandi doing the vocals, and I have a problem with T-Boz's "throaty, seductive voice" (Wikipedia). I tended to call her the horsey-voiced woman. Also, the lyrics are a valid complaint but not interesting. And anyway Kandi and She'kspere then came along on "Bills Bills Bills" and "There You Go" later in the year and totally trounced this.

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[koganbot]

does it way better in 'It's So Easy'"

Does it way better than on "Sweet Child," that is. (Not way better than "Under My Thumb" and "Like A Rolling Stone" and "Final Solution" and "Gimme Danger," though it's up there.)

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

There's also the Sheryl Crow cover which kind of proves that beneath the surface things which I'm repulsed by (the voice, the rock-ness) it's not even a particularly good song: Sheryl makes it sound pleasant but boring.

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

Sheryl makes EVERYTHING sound pleasant but boring though!

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

No she makes a lot of her own material sound pleasant and wonderful! My point being that if a song has a good tune and is well-written, Sheryl will be able to bring out those qualities (if no others). Not even she can do it with SCOM though ERGO it is a crap song even beneath the horrid guitars and yowling.

Re: He's a crank, but he's OUR crank

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

plainly this doesn't follow -- lots of ppl's covers of songs are timidly overwhelmed by WHAT THEY SEE (right or wrong) as the original's awesomeness

bsdies we already established that it is a grebt song by
i. listening to the original (not yet done be the lex)
ii. schoof being actually good when covering song despite being rub at all other times

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I'd love to hear anyone's reasons for preferring JD here

1. I was there (I dunno where I was when "say My Name" was a single, but not there)
2. The intro and the outro of LWTUA - two of the biggest rushes in pop

Re: GnRUB more like

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i wz there too :(