The History Of Jop Part 27 aka She got one of your kids got you for 18 years

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

And now - the final* Pazz and Jop poll. 2005 - seems like it was yesterday eh?

You have thirteen ticks across 39 boxes - the holdover from last year that I left out was "Galang", if you're interested.


[Poll #904749]


*or potentially penultimate, but I suspect the discussion of the New Times PJ poll will be along the lines of the JP one i.e. poll-free.

2004: Joptimists Verdict

1. Toxic (52 votes - offhand I can't remember anyone ever getting more, and certainly the 91% is huge)
2. Take Me Out (43)
3. What You Waiting For? (38)
4. Chewing Gum (37)
5=. 99 Problems (36)
5=. Galang (36)
7. Heartbeat (33)
8. Drop It Like It's Hot (27)
9. Yeah (Usher) (26)
10. Somebody Told Me (25)

And that's it. If anyone has any ideas for flagship poll series I will take them under consideration!

Comments

Tournament

[koganbot]

If anyone has any ideas for flagship poll series I will take them under consideration!

Tom, why not a tournament of number ones, as you did for the Now polls? That was great fun. I still remember my agony when Britney missed the Final Four by one vote.

And that would make this contest (Amerie now even with Kelly C.) significant, as two of "Hollaback Girl," "1 Thing," and "Since U Been Gone" are going to get the "Milkshake" treatment.

Re: Tournament

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I thought about that, but on the other hand there are quite a few crossovers with the Now poll winners. If I can think of a non-repetitive way of doing it then I will!

Re: Tournament

[justfanoe.livejournal.com]

Tournament of all the 0 vote getters, then we can see which is the worst of all the songs ever to make a P&J

Re: Tournament

[koganbot]

I like this idea too, though it would mean we'd have to listen to the tracks (many zero-voted singles are American songs that few Brits heard [and that didn't get much enthusiasm from the American voters]).

Re: Tournament

[koganbot]

Are there quite a few? I would have thought no more than several - "Always On My Mind," "Common People," and "Toxic" are the only three that jump to mind - and I think that they would not be shoo-ins in this competition. Even if they ended up 1, 2, and 3, there'd be a lot of interesting stuff happening along the way. Maybe what you could do is force repeat winners to play each other right off, so only half of them would make it to the second round! (But then, in general I think you should seed from the get-go on the basis of number or percentage of ticks or something, so you won't have super-loved stuff getting knocked out early. But maybe you could have repeat winners have their own separate qualifier round, before you do this. Or maybe you could just disqualify anyone British.)

Re: Tournament

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Going through I discovered that you're right, there weren't *that* many crossovers, also some of the "any good at all" consensus picks in the Now polls would face stiff opposition in a percentage-based Jop seeding system. I may well make the giant spreadsheet and see if this is a goer.

I also love the idea of a worst-of-the-worst poll, maybe a one-off though.

Re: Tournament

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I think we should def do a poll of the 2006 P&J or even JP.

Re: Tournament

[koganbot]

Would inspire more discussion about why mediocre Hold Steady songs are on the list. (There are some good Hold Steady tracks too, I insist. Just not that "Chips Ahoy!" thing.) In fact, if P&J is even half as Amerindie as JP, the befuddlement of Poptimists would be a joy to observe. But I don't think we should wait for P&J before we have our cumulative tournament. (P&J results don't come along until early Feb.)

Re: Tournament

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Oh let's just do Jackin' Pop then. If we're going to a full tournament it needs to be up-to-date!

Re: Tournament

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

I think there should be a superduper tournament of tournaments, with all the winners from all the various polls -- UK #1s, P&J finishers, Now! songs, the canons, etc. -- made to face in the ultimate poptimist Battle Royale.