[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
And now - the final* Pazz and Jop poll. 2005 - seems like it was yesterday eh?

You have thirteen ticks across 39 boxes - the holdover from last year that I left out was "Galang", if you're interested.


[Poll #904749]


*or potentially penultimate, but I suspect the discussion of the New Times PJ poll will be along the lines of the JP one i.e. poll-free.

2004: Joptimists Verdict

1. Toxic (52 votes - offhand I can't remember anyone ever getting more, and certainly the 91% is huge)
2. Take Me Out (43)
3. What You Waiting For? (38)
4. Chewing Gum (37)
5=. 99 Problems (36)
5=. Galang (36)
7. Heartbeat (33)
8. Drop It Like It's Hot (27)
9. Yeah (Usher) (26)
10. Somebody Told Me (25)

And that's it. If anyone has any ideas for flagship poll series I will take them under consideration!

Date: 2007-01-11 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
did anyone even listen to it more than once? how on earth did it get votes at all?

Date: 2007-01-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dickmalone.livejournal.com
SFJ and his crew were big into it. I think the theory was that because it wasn't just a mashup but an actual rap song that used the Kanye samples as their base and engaged in spirited political statements etc. it was worth highlighting. There were low expectations and it exceeded them. Music critics can have a really low bar for political relevence.

Date: 2007-01-11 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
I think it packs an emotional wallop; like it more than "Mosh" or "American Idiot,"* I think. Of course, it needs to ride the sample to get over musically, but that doesn't bother me. And there's no way it'd get a tick from me with this competition. ("Gold Digger" itself missed my tick, just barely.)

(*On the other hand, I think "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" prob'ly deserves more ticks than it's getting (though of course didn't get ticked by me). And "Holiday" coulda been a contender.)

Date: 2007-01-11 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dickmalone.livejournal.com
Eminem made it really hard to like "Mosh," didn't he? The other day I was watching that performance he did of "White America" at the MTV awards where he was in front of a podium with a bunch of old white guys in suits behind him, meant to be Congress I guess. One of the people I was watching it with thought Eminem was trying to say "look, I'm a white guy just like these old white guys in Congress!" which would've been much more interesting. Instead he was just playing the martyr, making himself a political issue, which he really wasn't by that time, so it was boring.

So yeah, "Eminem weighs in on politics over one of the ponderous beats he insists on using all the time now" wasn't that appealing at the moment, but once I ignored him for a while and listed to the album after the election, "Mosh" worked for me. Where before the election it felt forced and overly thought-out, once Bush won it made it a reflection on failure like "Stan" was, but the beat kept pushing forward and was quietly hopeful. I dunno, it hit me. The Mighty KO song didn't seem like it could possibly improve on the original statement, but maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance.

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