The History Of Jop Part 27 aka She got one of your kids got you for 18 years

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

And now - the final* Pazz and Jop poll. 2005 - seems like it was yesterday eh?

You have thirteen ticks across 39 boxes - the holdover from last year that I left out was "Galang", if you're interested.


[Poll #904749]


*or potentially penultimate, but I suspect the discussion of the New Times PJ poll will be along the lines of the JP one i.e. poll-free.

2004: Joptimists Verdict

1. Toxic (52 votes - offhand I can't remember anyone ever getting more, and certainly the 91% is huge)
2. Take Me Out (43)
3. What You Waiting For? (38)
4. Chewing Gum (37)
5=. 99 Problems (36)
5=. Galang (36)
7. Heartbeat (33)
8. Drop It Like It's Hot (27)
9. Yeah (Usher) (26)
10. Somebody Told Me (25)

And that's it. If anyone has any ideas for flagship poll series I will take them under consideration!

Comments

Clash Of The Controversies

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Two of the most 'offensive' (as in I know ppl who were offended by them) songs of 05 sitting next to each other in the poll - "I Predict A Riot" and "Wait (The Whisper Song)". Was there anyone offended by both?

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I feel bad that I didn't tick 'Wait' after defending it so staunchly at the time. It obv does not offend me and I still don't understand why it particularly offends anyone else.

'I Predict A Riot' didn't offend me so much as anger me.

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

'I still don't understand why it particularly offends anyone else.'

i THINK it MIGHT be to do with the whole misogynistic/violent connotations surrounding the phrase 'beat tha pussy up'

which i CAN understand. but i DIG the track anyway.

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

yeah but this is no worse than loads of hip-hop in the DECADE before 'Wait'!

also Lil Kim and Trina are far harder and far more "shocking" than YYT.

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

certainly it was no worse than countless other hip-hop tracks over the years. maybe just a weird timing thing. the only sense of controversy i got about it was just thru ILM/bloggers anyway.

i would suggest that women are not taken as seriously in hip-hop GENERALLY still and this contributes to why Kim and Trina get a 'free pass' re 'offensiveness. plus the sense of redressing the balance in a man's world or whatever. perhaps there is no sense to be made of any of this tho.

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

Well I'm offended by both in that I think the Kaiser Chiefs are outstandingly awful, but I wasn't offended ideologically by I Predict a Riot. I was offended by Wait, even if I was persuaded that it wasn't necessarily meant to be offensive in that way. So I'd say yes to your question!

Re: Clash Of The Controversies

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I defer to the SongMeanings board on these sorts of issues:
I Predict A Riot (http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858521822)

I ticked it mainly because of the GA live cover version. TUNE innit.

STILL never heard the YY Twins one.