The History Of Jop Part 24 aka It's Your Fremme Neppe Venette

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Here's 2002! Wasn't expecting to be polling it but since I'm here and you're here let's have a shot - you get FOURTEEN big ticks across 41 singles.


[Poll #876240]


2001: The Jopolith

1. Get Ur Freak On (43 votes)
2=. Bootylicious (35)
2=. Survivor (35)
4. One More Time (34)
5=. Get The Party Started (30)
5=. Where's Your Head At (30)
7. Romeo (29)
8. I'm A Slave 4 U (28)
9=. Izzo (HOVA) (25)
9=. Last Night (25)

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

What looked like a hard poll turned out to reduce easy by dint of Avril and Sean P's best singles not making it.

Hands up who remembered before reading this list the existence of "You Know You're Right"

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

What on earth is it doing so high???? Who are these people voting for it and why are they so lame?

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

i remembered 'You Know You're Right' before this poll. i ended up almost liking it as a kneejerk to there being a bit of a backlash when it came out.

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Strangely, given that I spent most of this year lying on my bed despondently, listening to the radio and pretending to revise for my GCSEs, I have no idea what half these songs are and hate most of them.

That Truth Hurts one is/was well good, mind. Completely filthy, too. She was not as fit as I hoped when I heard the song, though.

he turns my pages

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

the Truth Hurts song is AMAZING, the lyrics are really great as well (even though a small piece of me suspects she might actually be singing the far less romantic "returns my pages"). this may well be the pinnacle of R&B-does-orientalism...

The Strange Case Of The Vines.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

OK, so you had the Strokes, and ROCK WAS BACK.

Except! it wasn't really - there was a weird interregnum with a wave of bands like The Hives and The Vines who sort of nearly almost hit big and then vanished. So there's a 2-year gap before the Killers and Libertines and Franz pick up the Stroke-ish baton and bring us to where we are now.

Re: The Strange Case Of The Vines.

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

Haha THE DATSUNS.

Re: The Strange Case Of The Vines.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I think it's just bad timing plus the fact that it was just these two bands - they just both appeared at the same time, had a few hits, and then came back with more in two years time (the Hives' Walk Idiot Walk was the only single from either band to actually crack the top twenty) by which time they were a bit of a sideshow.

Re: The Strange Case Of The Vines.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

This is why I don't think The Strokes are anywhere near as important as people made out on the last poll: to my mind the US-based garagey sound they peddled is a very different beast to the Britpop Mk II which emerged later, after Franz Ferdinand (who themselves may be a red herring as they're hardly typical of what's popular now), which was v definitely UK-based. The Strokes themselves: where are they now? (NOWHERE = HURRAH, though I;d rather have them than the Arctic Monkeys)

OMG!

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

This is an amazing poll, so much goodness and its the first time I've genuinely had to think about which records not to tick. Missy and Eminem's finest moments, the Ratpure and LCD Soundsystem records whose glory either band never got anywhere near replicating, the two best bootlegs ever, ANDREW WK and most importantly ADDICTIVE aka the absolute high water mark of the ethnic ripoff rnb tune.

Substitue Gimmee The Light with Like Glue and this would be as good an encapsulation of early 00s pop as you could wish for.

Re: OMG!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I would have ticked the LCD Soundsystem if "Beat Connection" had been on it.

2002 was totally amazing - this is a great poll (though let's not overlook some of the horrors on it too) and it's a measure of how much I was into everything this year that it still seems vaguely disappointing next to the memories.

Ain't no shame ladies do your thang

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Just make sure you ahead of the game...

This song is absolutely brilliant. And it has small children body-popping in the video. Hurrah!

Re: OMG!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Never mind the band's career, the entire genre might as well have finished with HOJL.

you forget...

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

The Rapture were great live but this song was not quite good enough on rekkid to make my 14.

Why does everyone think 'Like Glue' is Seaneh Paul's greatest moment? I prefer 'Gimme The Light' and 'Get Busy'.

Andrew WK is indie crap, I am shocked and disgusted that you all like it.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

That Jimmy Eat World song drove me UP THE WALL from repeated playings at the indie disco. I didn't get sick of Noone Knows though. This year was a very weird one for me (musically and otherwise). Things started to Go Wrong somewhat.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I wuv the Jimmy Eat World song, and then rushed out and got their best-of. It turns out they used to be absolute shit emo-indie.

Freelance Hellraiser - Smells Like Booty

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

this mashup was actually done by Soulwax/2 Many DJs but seems to be credited to FH all over the internet and beyond.

either way it's a really boring one and way over-rated.

Re: Freelance Hellraiser - Smells Like Booty

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

From a technical perspective perhaps, but the song itself is so great at what the two records have and lack. It's also the reason for my first FT "article" (http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2003/07/glasto2003/).

2002

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

... was also the year ILM was in full-on canon-forming critical overdrive, and that's reflected here quite strongly I think. I remember the epic threads on almost all these singles, and a lot of them in retrospect seem really epochal, partly due to the mass of debate that surrounded them.

I wonder if some of these records, especially Andrew WK but possibly the bootlegs as well, would have appeared here otherwise.

Re: 2002

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Ah now more than anything, Andrew WK needs no explanation.

[justfanoe.livejournal.com]

This seems to be a pretty weak year to me. I don't know if that's because my personal situation at the time predisposes me to dislike this music or if it's legitimately not a great poll. I had to stretch to get 14. I ended up ticking "The Rising" because I knew Broooce would get little love on this poll and I think it's OK.

I still have a soft spot for that White Stripes song due to the video and also due to the fact that all I was listening to at the time was an assload of college rock and so I loved the song. I should have voted for Avril for my favorite song and the most important song though. Whoops.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

The White Stripes is a good song! Didn't make my 14 though because this poll is largely COMPLETELY AMAZING. Truth Hurts! Tweet! NORE!

IT'S ALL GOOD TO ME

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

My 2002 Pazz and Jop Entry

1 Rapture "House of Jealous Lovers" DFA
2 Sugababes "Freak Like Me" Island
3 Conway "Lisa's Got Hives" n/a
4 Missy Elliott "Work It" Elektra
5 Eminem "Without Me" Aftermath/Interscope
6 Electric Six "Danger! High Voltage" XL
7 Ms. Dynamite "It Takes More" Universal International
8 Scooter "Ramp! (The Logical Song)" Sheffield Tunes
9 Andrew W.K. "We Want Fun"
10 Jennifer Lopez "Jenny From the Block" Epic

I still love all these, except E6 and Ms D which I got a bit bored of eventually. I remember the order of the top 4 shifted around constantly until I just pressed send: when I wrote it up on FT Conway was #1, now Sugababes probably would be.

SCOOTER!

Re: IT'S ALL GOOD TO ME

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/02/voted_for.php?titleid=103303

:(

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

the thing i mainly found i liked abt boots was that even bad ones but esp.good ones made you listen to the construction of the victim songs much more closely -- it got you inside the machinery, and as a result the original songs often sounded better for being fresher when you went back to them

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

For me, one of the key theory-thrills of boots was that they demonstrated rather elegantly that the seeming pre-fab banality of pop form was in fact one of its primary STRENGTHS, not weaknesses.

No apologies and no real complaints.

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

1 Freelance Hellraiser "The Strokes vs. Christina Aguilera (A Stroke of Genie-us)" n/a
2 Osymyso "Intro-Introspection" n/a
3 Conway "Lisa's Got Hives" n/a
4 LCD Soundsystem "Losing My Edge" DFA
5 Underworld "Two Months Off" V2
6 Dixie Chicks "Landslide" Open Wide/Monument
7 Goo Goo Dolls "Here Is Gone" Warner Bros.
8 Sugababes "Freak Like Me" Island
9 Archigram "Carnaval" Crydamoure
10 Lady Dana "Ladies First" The Third Movement

I'm very very pleased with this list, still. I kinda put "Carnaval" on the list because I felt something akin to empathy for it, it seemed so sad and bittersweet, but now I think it's the best thing on it by miles. Only problem is I haven't heard "Ladies First" since I voted for it but I aver it's probably still really great.

Re: No apologies and no real complaints.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

But are you going to apologise for ticking the VINES????!!!!!

This is almost as bad as the Andrew WK love above.

These polls are revealing things about you all that I never knew or dreamed of.

POP MUSIC FOCUS GROUP

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

A lot of these came up at the pop music focus group where I was called evil. Why don't we have them anymore?

Just reading "LCD Soundsystem" and "the Rapture" makes my blood boil. Hideous.

Re: POP MUSIC FOCUS GROUP

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

Probably because I TOOK SIX BLOODY MONTHS to do one of 'em. Momentum? Kaput.

Along Comes Mary

[koganbot]

1. Paulina Rubio - "Don't Say Goodbye" (Universal)
2. Tweet - "Oops (Oh My)" (Gold Mind/Elektra)
3. N.O.R.E. - "Nothing" (Def Jam)
4. Kylie Minogue - "Can't Get You Out of My Head" (Capitol)
5. Celine Dion - "A New Day Has Come" (Epic)
6. Serial Rhyme Killers - "Something About Mary" (High Times)
7. Truth Hurts feat. Lata Mangeshkar and Rakim - "Addictive" (Aftermath)
8. Ian Van Dahl - "Castles in the Sky" (Robbins)
9. Tony Touch feat. Fat Joe, N.O.R.E., & Juju - "Capicu" (Tommy Boy)
10. Brandy - "What About Us" (Atlantic)

The "Mary" in "Something About Mary" is the Mary you think it is. Ian Van Dahl is prob'ly some previous year and was possibly there to ensure that my number 11 song - Fat Joe f. Ashanti "What's Luv" - didn't make my list. And then - ambivalent me - I was infuriated that "What's Luv" only got four votes.

What's P&J got to do wit' it?

[koganbot]

Most important song of the year was actually Fat Joe's "What's Luv" - obv not the first hip-hop/r&b intertwining by about 17 years, but this one twined and twisted a lot more tightly and set the stage for where we are now. It only got four votes on P&J, which is just utterly shocking.

Ashanti, Kelly, Kelly, Vanessa Carlton, Linkin Park, Puddle of Mudd

[koganbot]

Billboard's Top 41 singles, 2002

How You Remind Me - Nickelback
Foolish - Ashanti
Hot In Herre - Nelly
Dilemma - Nelly ft. Kelly Rowland
Wherever You Will Go - The Calling
A Thousand Miles - Vanessa Carlton
In The End - Linkin Park
What's Luv? - Fat Joe ft Ashanti
U Got It Bad - Usher
Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd
Complicated - Avril Lavigne
Always On Time - Ja Rule ft Ashanti
Ain't It Funny - Jennifer Lopez ft Ja Rule
The Middle - Jimmy Eat World
I Need A Girl Pt 1 - P. Diddy ft Usher & Loon
U Don't Have To Call - Usher
Family Affair - Mary J. Blige
I Need A Girl Pt 2 - P. Diddy & Ginuwine ft Loon & Mario Winans
Gangsta Lovin' - Eve ft Alicia Keys
My Sacrifice - Creed
Without Me - Eminem
Hero - Enrique Iglesias
All You Wanted - Michelle Branch
Get The Party Started - Pink
Hero - Chad Kroeger and Josey Scott
Wasting My Time - Default
One Last Breath - Creed
Whenever, Wherever - Shakira
I'm Gonna Be Alright - Jennifer Lopez ft. Nas
Oh Boy - Cam'ron ft Juelz Santana
Heaven - DJ Sammy
Hey Baby - No Doubt ft Bounty Killer
Girlfriend - 'NSync ft Nelly
Just A Friend 2002 - Mario
Soak Up The Sun - Sheryl Crow
Don't Let Me Get Me - Pink
Nothin' - N.O.R.E.
Oops (Oh My) - Tweet
A Moment Like This - Kelly Clarkson
Addictive - Truth Hurts ft Rakim
Happy - Ashanti