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Unrepresented in the poll, but this was a big component of the tail-end of the year (and bigger in 2002).

At the time this seemed to me much more important than the Strokes.

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Me and my then best friend had a massive ongoing DESTINY'S CHILD vs THE STROKES: who is more important? argument in 2001, which we even took into (student rag) print.

From the vantage point of 2006 I am feeling VERY SMUG INDEED.

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What with R&B outselling indie in the oh wait.

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DC's moment of peak importance had passed by this point, though.

My - laughably innacurate with hindsight, but still seductive if I listen to Is This It? (a good record FWIW) - take was that the Strokes were the apologetic shrug at the end of retro indie, not harbingers of its enormous revival.

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i still think 'Room On Fire' is even better!

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Room On Fire is the record that made me retrospectively like The Strokes. I mean, clearly The Lex is wrong and they're by far and away the most important band here* even if most of what followed them was appalling. I'm not sure the influence of Destiny's Child is actually that great.

*I would never have predicted my saying this five years ago. In fact I think I would've been disgusted with myself.

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thing is i'm not sure WHY they're REALLY any more important than Daft Punk here.

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... for NICKELBACK you denialists

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ppl are votin it worst bcz it MOVES THEM oh yes

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I don't think, retrospectively, 2001-era Daft Punk had that great an influence (compared to 1997-era DP). House music in general had a big shift away from the whole French thing about a year later, although I suppose you could argue they had a key role in the 80s revival.

That said, I reckon the 80s revival and with it electroclash/house would probably have happened anyway. It's hard to imagine many of the big guitar bands of the last few years having the same impact without the appearance of the Strokes.

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I was going to post something to the effect of the guitar band revival being on the cards anyway, but it's true that the Strokes have dictated the look and 'feel' of it to a much greater degree than anyone anticipated.

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i think DC's peak ran from 'Say My Name' until 'Survivor' (a single i didn't actually like much) so they had a good 18 months-2 years of peak and plateau

luckily i was loving both their singles and The Strokes pretty much equally.

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nonsense, 'Get On The Bus' and 'Bills Bills Bills' and 'Bug-a-Boo' all predate 'Say My Name' and are BETTER! and 'Bootylicious' and 'Lose My Breath' and 'Soldier' postdate 'Survivor' and are totally up to its standard.

I didn't know you lot loved the Strokes. Disgusting. Disgusting.

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White Stripes/Strokes combo saved my nightclub from imminent collapse under the weight of repeated Britpop. See also Chop Suey & Weezer. I didn't like Weezer much but the £1-shot swilling kids loved it. I wasn't going to argue.

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Does anyone else think "Survivor" is Destiny's Child's finest moment, by the way?

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I concur.

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it's possibly Beyoncé's finest moment! (er until 'Irreplaceable')

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one of my least fave DC singles but hard to say why. too aggressive and 'bitter' perhaps. i didn't like 'Jumpin Jumpin' much by comparison either.

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I like it because it's like they've absorbed all the criticisms of DC and Beyonce as fembots, androids, corporate midriffs etc. and then gone "YES. AND?" and the puny mask of flesh has been discarded and they've gone on a Bride of Pinbot killing spree.

It is also staggeringly bitter, yes, ha ha.

And it has "diss you on the Internet"!

And it has those backing vocals going "WORK. WORK. WORK."

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i thought it was 'WHUT?!' not 'WORK'

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It turns out we can save chat about Stroke Of Genie-us till next poll, hurrah!

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I thought it was WHUT as well.

I agree. A funny story about that song: it was SO OBVIOUSLY directed at LeToya and LaTavia that their lawyers went after Beyoncé (there was a clause in the DC split-up contract which said that neither side were permitted to say anything derogatory about the other in public - clearly LeT's lawyers thought this contravened it) though I don't think anything came of it.

Five years on when LeToya is asked in interviews how she felt when she first heard 'Survivor'? "Oh I totally identified with it, because I'm a survivor too, and I really admired them for saying such a strong statement" YAAAAARRRGH

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Yep

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