The History Of Jop Part 22 aka I apologise a million times

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

To celebrate all meeting up in the year 2000, the Pazz and Jop singles poll jumped in scale from a Top 25 to a Top 40 - 42 in this case, thanks to ties. You therefore get FOURTEEN big picks - use them wisely.


[Poll #871746]


1999: Poll Over Jops Out Of Time

1. ...Baby One More Time (43 votes)
2. No Scrubs (41)
3. Genie In A Bottle (38)
4= Got Your Money (34)
4= My Name Is (34)
6. Rendez-Vu (26)
7= Steal My Sunshine (24)
7= Beautiful Stranger (24)
7= Praise You (24)
10. Believe (22)

Comments

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

i) ROCK IS DEAD HURRAH - can we get back to this please
ii) ironically enough I think both token rock acts here, QOTSA and S-K, are very very good generally! Not good enough to come close to a tick, but they're basically the best the genre's come up with this decade.

Re: Rock Off

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

death is a risky territory for something to achieve if you want it GO AWAY, as it is merely the tubestop prior to back! back!! BACK!!!

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

as we are currently seeing :(

Re: Rock Off

[koganbot]

Why aren't you counting U2 and Coldplay as rock? Or do you mean noncrossover-from-rock-stations-to-pop-stations rock? But S-K never made it to the rock stations, even. They're Nindie.

M.O.P. is much more of a rock band than any of those, anyway. "Ante Up" is guys hollering over the chords to "House of the Rising Sun." (Or "For My Love" or "Steppin Stone" or "Tales of Brave Ulysses" or...)

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I kind of think of rock as loud and noisy, U2 and Coldplay are...mimsy, wet MOR.

God I loathe that U2 song. How in the world did it end up so high?!

Re: Rock Off

[koganbot]

Yeah, puzzlement to me about "Beautiful Day" - is dry and nebbish (and I quite like "With Or Without You" and "Mysterious Ways," etc.). The Sleater-Kinney track doesn't rock, by the way, though rocking long since stopped being a criterion for rock, unfortunately. And I guess it wishes it rocked.

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I agree with you about this S-K track, it's a bit...all mouth and no trousers. However virtually everything on their One Beat album DOES rock.

'Beautiful Day' is just so BOGSTANDARD MEDIOCRE. It sounds as if it's a chore to be happy.

Re: Rock Off

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The S-K track reminds me of horrible things like Helen Love (sorry Alan).

"Beautiful Day" is secretly "The Sun Always Shines On TV (Worse Remix)" by A-Ha, and as such is pop.

Re: Rock Off

[juror8.livejournal.com]

MOP are probably the only rap group ever who understand what's actually "good" about rock music (ie, throwing yourself into other people at high speed and that's it).

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

What on earth is good about that?!

Re: Rock Off

[koganbot]

"Throwing yourself into other people at high speed" is a good description of "B.O.B." actually, which as I recall was considered rock, at least to the extent of not getting played on hip-hop/r&b stations (didn't get played on rock stations much, either; interesting that "Hey Ya" got played on both a couple of years later).

Re: Rock Off

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I never threw myself into anyone when dancing to 'BOB'. I danced properly, with my legs and my hips and my arms, in my OWN SPACE.

I HEAR ANOTHER THINK COMING

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

oh you and yr rockist definitions of PROPER DANCING

Re: Rock Off

[skyecaptain.livejournal.com]

"B.O.B." was pretty big on our alternative rock station, not as much as "Hey Ya" but enough so that you noticed. "Ms. Jackson," too, those Outkast singles were definitely accepted as rock. The Eminem singles got airplay on the alt rock stations, too. But Creed was also getting big around this time (I think), and Colplay etc., so you could probably find some really bizarre sequences on rock radio around that time.

Re: Rock Off

[koganbot]

Actually, the best rock track on here is "Goodbye Earl" - unless I'm in the mood to call "The Real Slim Shady" and "Big Pimpin'" rock, given that it has more in common with the rock I love than any of the official "rock" tracks.

Meltzer says that rock died in late 1967, btw.

Re: Rock Off

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

UNTIL SOMEONE FORGOT

Re: Rock Off

[koganbot]

Well, yeah, obv. rock was alive and well in 2000 on the country and hip-hop stations!