The History Of Jop Part 18 aka Get your next of kin your sister and your friend

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

It was ten years ago today....the Pazz and Jop poll for 1996. We are spared a second go-round for "Wonderwall" (#4 in this poll), leaving 27 singles and NINE ticks


[Poll #858822]


1995: I Got Jop On It

1. Waterfalls (46 votes)
2. Sour Times (37 votes)
3. Connection (36 votes)
4. Gangsta's Paradise (34)
5. A Girl Like You (32)
6. I Wish (30)
7=. Stutter (28)
7=. Creep (28)
9=. Boombastic (27)
9=. I Got 5 On It (27)

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Delay (and general absence from LJ today) caused by my being off work with the ills :(

Ok yes it was me

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

that voted for Everclear. However, has anyone else noticed a similarity between this song and a Paris one?

Re: Ok yes it was me

[koganbot]

Huh? Which one? Did notice the similarity to five or six better Everclear songs from their next album.

1979

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

This is the song that justifies the existence of Billy Corgan.

On the basis of this thread, 1996 was much better than I remember.

No Diggity

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

Am I the only person who finds this astonishingly overrated? I don't actively dislike it, but the critical rapture it's received for years leaves me completely nonplussed.

Re: No Diggity

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I still love it to this day! Queen Pen's bit is brilliant.

Re: No Diggity

[whalefish.livejournal.com]

I reckon it's pretty overrated too, but then I do have terrible taste so that probably doesn't count for much.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I can still do the dance to the Macarena.

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

What on earth is the Macarena doing in here anyway? This might be the most baffling inclusion yet.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Haha phear the Common PEople backlash!

I am *assuming* that Born Slippy is "Born Slippy (Nuxx)" but while they specified the Los Del Rio mix they didn't specify that one.

1996 not as bad as I remembered either but all that "indie meets hip hop" stuff is pretty much totally awful.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

What are you pointing the finger at precisely there?

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Born Slippy is the better of the two songs </indie>

which version?

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I am *assuming* that Born Slippy is "Born Slippy (Nuxx)" but while they specified the Los Del Rio mix they didn't specify that one

similarly "Missing" must presumably be the Todd Terry remix

Don't think I ever saw the "(Nuxx)" appended at the time. Come to that, I don't actually know what people are referring to when they suggest there is another non-Nuxx version of Born Slippy.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Hurrah 'Common People' backlash.

I also assume 'Missing' is the Todd Terry rmx.

Stuff like Beck and Eels makes me rather horrified. WHY in the NAME OF GOD.

Yeuch

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

I only just managed to find 9 to tick -- the bad stuff here is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL i.e. Garbage x 2, Beck, Everything But the Girl; RATM; and although I have a sentimental soft spot for Ready or Not, overall the Fugees are a BAD THING.

Re: Yeuch

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

How so! They gave us Lauryn Hill!

why you imitatin' Al Capone? I be NINA SIMONE, defecatin' on your microphone

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

My god when Lauryn Hill concentrates she is absolutely devastatingly great. I put it down as a tie but on reflection I think 'Ready Or Not' just edges 'California Love'.

If fucking 'Common People' beats those two and 'No Diggity' and 'Macarena' I shall be VERY DISPLEASED.

Re: why you imitatin' Al Capone? I be NINA SIMONE, defecatin' on your microphone

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

some sort of clever reverse psychology going on here, surely?

[koganbot]

Strangeness in this poll. "C'mon N' Ride It" won with a miniscule 34 votes, which was only 14.4% of the voters. Previous two years had gotten 29.9%, and winners usually get in the 20%s. "Hey Ya" got an incredible 44.1% in '02; "Gold Digger" won with a relatively weak 18.2% last year. I haven't calculated every year, but I'd be shocked if anything else won with such a low percentage as "C'Mon N' Ride It."

Btw, "C'Mon N' Ride It" is great and way way way WAY more the music of the future than the album winner Beck turned out to be. Was considered a novelty, I suppose, but foreshadowed the triumph of the Dirty South.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I haven't even heard OF 'C'mon And Ride It' until now.

The Train

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DA9C86464AC246CA

Re: The Train

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

oh THAT one. unsurprisingly this was on the trawl cds ;)

things i don't recall at all (ftb we are still in the penumbra of NO MUSIC FOR MARK S)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

Quad City DJs - Come On N Ride It (The Train)
Butthole Surfers - Pepper
Everclear - Santa Monica
Everything But The Girl - Missing

Everything But The Girl

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Tracey Thorn of Massive Attack Protection fame nasally going:

"An I MISSYOOOOOO! Like the desert's missed the rain!"

over some fairly weak balearic house.

Meanwhile In Britain WARNING MAY CONTAIN TATTVA

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I am going to slope off back to my sickbed but not before I have posted the NME's 1996 Top 50 - caveat lector!

Underworld -Born Slippy (Junior Boy's Own)
Manic Street Preachers - A Design For Life (Epic)
Beck - Where It's At (Geffen)
The Prodigy- Firestarter (Xl)
Orbital - The Box (Lnternal)
Folk Implosion- Natural One (London)
Beck - Devils Haircut (Geffen)
Tiger - Race (Trade2)
2pac - California Love (Death Row)
Suede - Trash (Nude)
The Bluetones - Slight Return (Superior Quality)
Super Furry Animals - The Man Don't Give A Fuck (Creation)
Fugees - Ready Or Not (Columbia)
Oasis - Don't Took Back In Anger (Creation)
Ash - Oh Yeah (Infectious)
The Charlatans - One To Another (Beggars Banquet)
Rocket From The Crypt - Born In '69 (Elemental)
Spice Girls - Wannabe (Virgin)
Babybird - You're Gorgeous (Echo)
The Lemonheads - If I Could Talk I'd Tell You (East West)
Rem - E-Bow The Letter (Wea)
Supergrass - Going Out (Parlophone)
The Prodigy - Breathe (Xl)
The Divine Comedy - The Frog Princess (Setanta)
Bis - The Secret Vampire Soundtrack (Chemikal Underground)
Cj Bolland - Sugar Is Sweeter (Internal)
Busta Rhymes - Woo-Hah !! (Got You All In Check) (Elektra)
Catatonia - You've Got A Lot To Answer For (Blanco Y Negro)
Nas - If I Ruled The World (Columbia)
Fugees - Killing Me Softly (Columbia)
Third Eye Foundation - Semtex (Domino)
The Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids (Creation}
Mogwai - Summer (Love Train)
Dose Featuring Mark E Smith - Plug Myself In (Coliseum)
Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Ep (Warp)
The Chemical Brothers - Setting Sun (Virgin)
Super Furry Animals - If You Don't Want Me To Destroy You (Creation)
The Divine Comedy - Something For The Weekend (Setanta)
The Lightning Seeds + Baddiel & Skinner - Three Lions (Epic)
Space - Female Of The Species (Gut)
Blackstreet - No Diggity (Mca)
Sebadoh - Beauty Of The Ride (Domino)
Sparklehorse - Someday I Will Treatyou Good (Capitol)
Super Furry Animals - God! Show Me Magic (Creation)
George Michael - Fast Love (Virgin)
The Cardigans - Lovefool (Polydor)
Kula Shaker - Tattva (Columbia)
DJ Shadow - Stem (Mo'wax)
Ash - Goldfinger (Infectious)
Black Grape - England's Irie (Radioactive)

Re: Meanwhile In Britain WARNING MAY CONTAIN TATTVA

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Bizarrely I was still listening to Capital FM a lot and wondering why they were playing Fastlove instead of Elastica. Then I found Xfm hurrah for young indieKat!

> Cj Bolland - Sugar Is Sweeter

This is still an amazing song.

Meanwhile in Frankland

[koganbot]

Top Ten Singles, 1996 (was sent out to friends, not to P&J)

Here's my top ten. It's worse than last year's top ten, but this year was better than last year (meaning that this year's number 100 is better than last year's, though I've forgotten what either of them are).

SINGLES:

1. Hole "Gold Dust Woman"
2. Angelina "Release Me"
3. Los Del Rio "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)"
4. Quad City DJ's "C'Mon N' Ride It (the Train)"
5. Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby"
6. That song by Stabbing Westward I heard the second half of once on MTV.*
7. Butthole Surfers "Pepper"
8. Mary J. Blige "Not Gon' Cry"
9. Banda Rugido "El Vanao"
10. No Doubt "Don't Speak"

[*Song was "Shame"]

Mariah, Toni, Brandy, Goo Goos

[koganbot]

Billboard's Top 28, 1996

1. Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio
2. One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
3. Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion
4. Nobody Knows - Tony Rich Project
5. Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey
6. Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman
7. Tha Crossroads - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
8. I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis
9. You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton
10. Twisted - Keith Sweat
11. C'mon N' Ride It (The Train) - Quad City Dj's
12. Missing - Everything But The Girl
13. Ironic - Alanis Morissette
14. Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
15. Follow You Down / Til I Hear It From You - Gin Blossoms
16. Sittin' Up In My Room - Brandy
17. How Do U Want It / California Love - 2Pac
18. It's All Coming Back To Me Now - Celine Dion
19. Change The World - Eric Clapton
20. Hey Lover - LL Cool J
21. Loungin - LL Cool J
22. Insensitive - Jann Arden
23. Be My Lover - La Bouche
24. Name - Goo Goo Dolls
25. Who Will Save Your Soul - Jewel
26. Where Do You Go - No Mercy
27. I Can't Sleep Baby (If I) - R. Kelly
28. Counting Blue Cars - Dishwalla

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

I only ticked three.

I was listening to Man or Astro-man? mostly.

No Diggity, No No Doubt

[skyecaptain.livejournal.com]

Where the heck is No Doubt?

Re: No Diggity, No No Doubt

[skyecaptain.livejournal.com]

(Oh there it is on Frank's ballot.) Wait, bigger travesty, NO "CROSSROADS." If it weren't for that song I might have never learned how to feel deeply. That Mariah/B2M thing lasted 4ever if I remember correctly, only a fluke like the Macarena could have unseated it from the #1 spot.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I realise no-one is still reading this, but please explain the Sheryl Crow hate?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

This song isn't as good as All I Wanna Do, that's why.