[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
After Friday's wranglings it came to me that what we need is some kind of scientific way of working out exactly how pop various acts are. I was going to call this simple feature the POPOMETER but [livejournal.com profile] awesomewells came up with a better name.

The idea is very simple - on a 1 to 10 scale, tell us how pop a particular act is. A score of 1 would be given to someone like Nurse With Wound, who are not very pop at all. A score of 10 might go to Britney Spears, or ABBA, both of whom are extremely pop. Over the weeks the results of these polls will build up to a body of incontrovertible evidence as to the popticity of our hott music starz.

[Poll #782116]

(If you neither know nor care who the Lex is just give the same answer to both questions!)

Date: 2006-07-31 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
Neil Tennant said that Brandon Flowers is the greatest living "pop" star. So there.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
Brandon Flowers looks like how Brian Molko must imagine he looks.

Image

Date: 2006-07-31 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
I'd hit it, but only from behind.

Date: 2006-07-31 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awesomewells.livejournal.com
He looks a bit like Jamie Redknapp in eyeliner.

Date: 2006-07-31 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Hate-fuck obviously.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
This is, in fact, the perfect comment.

Date: 2006-07-31 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com
You're right! I never thought about this before, but Brandon is Brian Molko without all of the tubbiness and shrimpery.

Date: 2006-07-31 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
um, it was steve not matt...

Date: 2006-07-31 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
um, wasn't that me?

christ, you were p!ssed ;)

Date: 2006-07-31 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Best feature ever!

Date: 2006-07-31 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
OK best NAME of feature ever.

Kat = 1/10

Date: 2006-07-31 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
ftb I feel quite smug that I know who Nurse With Wound are.

Simple Headphone Mind, dude!

Date: 2006-07-31 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
okay that was a Stereolab collab so maybe it doesn't count

Re: Simple Headphone Mind, dude!

Date: 2006-07-31 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Stereolab = -10 points, even a Britney collaboration would only bring them up to 0.

Re: Simple Headphone Mind, dude!

Date: 2006-07-31 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
wot yr missing out is that lex like stereolab. really! i saw him say so in a MANSUN thread on ILM

Re: Simple Headphone Mind, dude!

Date: 2006-07-31 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Stereolab are pop! Lovely noodly organs and chirpy vocals. Yum.

Re: CLINT BOON TO THREAD

Date: 2006-07-31 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Chirpy girl vocals with French accents as well!

Re: CLINT BOON TO THREAD

Date: 2006-07-31 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cis.livejournal.com
Girls with French accents == indie, tho.

Re: CLINT BOON TO THREAD

Date: 2006-07-31 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
Nothing is more indie than being a French woman.

lex-icon of wrong

Date: 2006-07-31 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
'true faith' (which ISN'T INDIE, it's got NO GUITARS)
-- The Lex

Date: 2006-07-31 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
Did anyone see Big Brother last night? They played them 'Mr Brightside' and they all danced madly except Pete, who stood there stock still looking glum.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
I did see it! Perhaps Pete sees Brandon Flowers for the true machiavellian he is.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Oh is that what song it was? It just sounded like a horrible racket to me.

It was only Jennie who was really into it, I thought.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
wait til you see my Venn Diagram Of Pop/Indie/Rock that I am working on in a way akin to Neil from the Young Ones and his astrological starchart.

if only i could make it interactive

Date: 2006-07-31 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
This is going to lead to more public disgrace for Poptimists :(

I still don't see how The Killers can be considered pop AT ALL.

Neil Tennant is going senile. He hasn't made any good music for over a decade anyway (apart from 'Miracles' which was a fluke).

Date: 2006-07-31 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
The Killers are a major label band, a bunch of session musicians surrounding some dude who always ends up on "50 Buffest Men In World" lists, support Duran Duran on tour, have music videos with Diddy in 98 budgets (shot by Hollywood directors), and, you know, they're so not indie.

Date: 2006-07-31 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
They're an indie band who flukily happen to be famous. This is like saying Death Cab For Motherfucking Cutie are pop - they will never ever be pop, not even if they have more No 1s than Westlife. Their aesthetic is indie, their sound is indie, their appeal is indie.

How the hell does he end up on any buffest menz lists?!

Date: 2006-07-31 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
the crazy synths on 'somebody told me' = xenomanic pop

Date: 2006-07-31 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avv.livejournal.com
when I was "doing" djing at this horrible indie night back in bristol this perfectly perfect emo kid came up and wrote "some deathcab would be NICE" on the requests sheet, with "NICE" underlined and extra-thick so as to appear EXTRA sinister. for ages we talked about getting t-shirts with it on, but then we never did.

that's the end of the anecdote, really.

Date: 2006-07-31 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I think a really good idea for one of those throwaway Xmas hunour books would be "things people have said to me while I've been DJing".

Are you in London yet?

Date: 2006-07-31 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avv.livejournal.com
Yes! I was intending to go to Poptimism on Saturday until my sister popped up as she is wont to do and announced she was in London for, like, 2 days and we had to go out. So, yeah.

I can think of so many contributions for that book already. Off the top of my head, my favourite is when the guy with tattoos all over his face told me I could make loads of money in jail as a rent boy.

Date: 2006-08-01 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Confused-looking indie girl in Wales, as I was playing Lil Kim: "Is this emo?"

Awesome, you are in London, what are you doing?

Date: 2006-07-31 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
haha am I the only person to give a higher score to the second question?

what does this mean?

Date: 2006-07-31 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
no i gave higher score second time because the question sort of suggests that you should and i'm happy to play along.

my average score for Killers popness thus = 6

Date: 2006-07-31 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awesomewells.livejournal.com
I have said The Lex Factor in the past but not in this context I think, so can't take credit here.

Astonishing consensus forming here, btw. SCIENTIFIC PROOF if ever it existed.

Date: 2006-07-31 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
But they can become immensely pop just by The Lex walking into the room.

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