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poptimistsTwo things said by the Lex on the Poptimists chart thread:
"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."
"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"
Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?
(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)
(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)
"Gareth and I were talking last night about how a lot of the pro-pop people appear to have collectively decided that pop is a sonic genre rather than...anything and everything which cannibalises anything and everything else with an eye on the charts and sonic results all over the map, which is how I would want to define and approve of pop."
"I think my view of pop is the, the pure poppist view! the "pop-is-not-a-sound-but-an-ethos" argument which means that anything from Avril Lavigne to Stardust can be pop if it wants but that any attempt to define pop on strict sonic boundaries, or to make music based on these definitions (as many of these Swedes seem to do), is itself r*ck*sm or even worse INDIE"
Worth more discussion I reckons. Maybe we should ignore the whole qn of indie as I honestly think it's a side issue, and let's also try and leave rock1sm out of this until we know what it means, but yeah, is pop a sound or an ethos, or a sound that epitomises an ethos, or WHAT?
(If yr starving for actual YSI fun I will have some goodies for you tonight, including Bosh of the Week)
(Meanwhile for full on comments box madness scroll back to the Now 18 poll and look at the bottom - EEK)
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Date: 2006-01-31 06:30 pm (UTC)I have Lacuna Coil on order, hopefully it will come soon.
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Date: 2006-01-31 06:39 pm (UTC)He Who Asks, Wasn't There Supposed To Be A Ben Moody Solo Album?
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Date: 2006-01-31 07:02 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-01-31 07:38 pm (UTC)(my favourite avril song is 'i'm with you' because it is gorgeous and existential)
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Date: 2006-01-31 07:51 pm (UTC)But my point is that some pop is goth (though "Complicated" isn't goth)!
(And I wish youse guys would come visit me on the teenpop thread.)
He Who Is Looking Forward To The Marit Larsen Album (Though He Worries That He May Never Get To Hear It, Seeing As He Has Yet To Hear The Marion Raven CD)
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Date: 2006-01-31 11:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-31 11:21 pm (UTC)ha that's why i mentioned it.