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The new DJ Quik & Kurupt video for 'Hey Playa! (Moroccan Blues)' features CAMELS.



One of the very best summer jams of the year, too.

Date: 2009-08-12 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Creative sample (what eevr that Moroccan singing in the back is), funny video, clever rhymes and a hooky chorus. Intelligence on display here is really refreshing. It's a shame it's all a little too dissonant to achieve mainstream success.

Date: 2009-08-12 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
I think there's a very interesting conversation to be had about how hip hop and rap was "sold" to the mainstream by compensating for its harshness, largely using soothing RnB/soul female vox (sampled or otherwise). Something similar occured in dance music too.

Date: 2009-08-12 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
The interesting thing about that is that it isn't entirely true - I feel like rap was doing well on its own even before a trend to mixing in smoother RnB flavours came to dominate.

But now I think audiences have come to expect it. Indeed rap itself often becoems the decoration inside RnB songs instead of the other way around.

But I'd love to hear the thoughts of someone who listens to way more rap music than I do :).

Date: 2009-08-12 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Yeah see as I posted just above I think I'm sorta wrong. I think rpa made it big in the nineties on its own, but then R&B made it even BIGGEr, and now rap seems to struggle in the mainstream without RnB's help? Just thinking aloud really but that's how it feels to me.

When was the last time there was a massive rap hit in the UK that really was just rap over a backing track? I'm guessing it was probably Eminem, although he's plenty with the gimmicky hooks and things.

Date: 2009-08-12 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Like, I am thinkign the transition period was in the earlier part of this decade. I would hesitate to point to an exact moment of transition though.

Date: 2009-08-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Key points would include Jay-Z's "Hard Knock Life" (gimmick hook) in 1998 running up to, say, Nelly feat. Kerry Rowland with "Dilemma" (really strong RnB inflection, female vox as big part of track, monster hit in 2002)

I feel like the RnB/soul-inflected mainstream rap/hip-hop has largely replaced the "purer" mainstream hip-hop/rap that was more prevalent in the nineties. I suspect it might even have something to do with the increasingly female market for singles.

Date: 2009-08-12 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
Yes, definitely.

Date: 2009-08-12 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
The rapping has a bit of a 'golden age' (ie late 80s) vibe to it, although the Moroccan stuff is more reminiscent of late 90s/early 00s hip hop. It's a weird hybrid in other words and none the worse for its retro leanings. I love it; I put it on my last mix CD. Will seek out the album - Lex's Graun review really makes me want to hear the rest of it.

Date: 2009-08-12 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com
It's not as good as 9xs Outta 10, which manages to be both brilliantly backward-looking and breathtakingly forward-looking.

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