Misery Wednesday

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

A couple of weeks ago we did a thread on what's exciting you about music at the moment.

Here's its inverse: what's annoying you about music at the moment, and why? I'm tempted to ban discussion of Kate Nash upfront - anyway I'm not really after specific acts, more the trends and ideas that make those acts' popularities a bad thing.

And - what do you think could be done about it (if anything)?

(Orgafun update: the missing Pop Open player has been located and a track is hopefully on its way)

Comments

Re: EASY

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

It's probably a lack of paying attention, but my general impression is that the level of really horribly sexist lyrics in hip-hop has dropped from a few years back. (Or maybe it's just that they stand out less in a much more generally sexualised / sex-oriented pop culture)

Re: EASY

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

A bit of both - saturation + more clued up lasses = unblinking perhaps, but not 'acceptance'. More like 'ignoring'? If Will.I.Am wants a video full of sexy ladies then he's perfectly within his rights to. The dancers aren't exactly being exploited (I assume they are all adults and are getting paid). We don't *have* to watch it, after all.

What IS awful, sexist and completely irredeemable is the Offspring video I saw the other day - sexism is by NO MEANS limited to rap/rnb and is probably worse lyrically in emo/indie where there are fewer women sticking up for themselves.

Re: EASY

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

It's sexist in a different way - it's more about rough sex than general misogynist contempt now, ie less "bitches ain't shit" and more "beat that pussy up", but most aren't quite as aggressive as that. It's more objectifying women than hating them now. tbh the girls give, and since Lil' Kim have always given, as good or better than they got.

Re: EASY

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Yep - like I said above just now, at least in RnB there are plenty of ladies giving it welly. Indie is absolutely terrible for sexually confident women, it's all Kate Gnash moaning about how they're so spotty no man will ever go near them BOO HOO.

Re: EASY

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, indie is pretty terrible for sexually confident MEN as well.

Re: EASY

[koganbot]

Comment of the day!

Re: EASY

[(Anonymous)]

Depends what you mean by indie - the mainstream chart (bloke rock indie) is quite bad for that at the mo, but the twee HDIF type stuff on the various mix CDs MV makes is all about women being lovely and so on!