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It's probably a lack of paying attention, but my general impression is that the level of really horribly sexist lyrics in hip-hop has dropped from a few years back. (Or maybe it's just that they stand out less in a much more generally sexualised / sex-oriented pop culture)

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A bit of both - saturation + more clued up lasses = unblinking perhaps, but not 'acceptance'. More like 'ignoring'? If Will.I.Am wants a video full of sexy ladies then he's perfectly within his rights to. The dancers aren't exactly being exploited (I assume they are all adults and are getting paid). We don't *have* to watch it, after all.

What IS awful, sexist and completely irredeemable is the Offspring video I saw the other day - sexism is by NO MEANS limited to rap/rnb and is probably worse lyrically in emo/indie where there are fewer women sticking up for themselves.

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It's sexist in a different way - it's more about rough sex than general misogynist contempt now, ie less "bitches ain't shit" and more "beat that pussy up", but most aren't quite as aggressive as that. It's more objectifying women than hating them now. tbh the girls give, and since Lil' Kim have always given, as good or better than they got.

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Yep - like I said above just now, at least in RnB there are plenty of ladies giving it welly. Indie is absolutely terrible for sexually confident women, it's all Kate Gnash moaning about how they're so spotty no man will ever go near them BOO HOO.

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To be fair, indie is pretty terrible for sexually confident MEN as well.

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koganbot

Comment of the day!

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Depends what you mean by indie - the mainstream chart (bloke rock indie) is quite bad for that at the mo, but the twee HDIF type stuff on the various mix CDs MV makes is all about women being lovely and so on!

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This is something I was thinking about the other day when listening to the MIA album. The whole album is a massive big "HELLOOOOOOR THIS IS MIA" My Album Let Me Show You It - it's all hers and her personality is stamped all over it. And then there's the Timbaland track at the end that, first of all sounds completely at odds with the other songs (it's *his* track and she should feel GRATEFUL to be appearing on it etc), and then the bit that makes me CRINGE: Timbaland calling MIA "baby girl".

- MIA is NOT Timbaland's object of affection, that's quite clear from the tone of the song
- Baby girl is not generally accepted as a term of respect, professional or otherwise
- So basically Tim is 'putting her in her place' and dismissing the last 11 tracks as infantile. This makes me angrier than a very angry thing.

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Timbaland comes off as a total chump throughout that track though - come to my teepee etc. - it shouldn't have been on the album, it only really works as a "sorry everyone, back to normal pop now" move.

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I'm seriously considering taking it off my mp3 player.

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I assume it was MIA's decision to put it ON the record, given that it had already been on Tim's one.

The Mutya/Groove Armada track was on both their records too - this is a new trend and I for one do not etc etc

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Twista and Kanye both had 'Slow Jamz' on their respective albums!

I feel quite kindly towards 'Come Around' b/c I've never actually heard it in the context of Kala, just as one of the two tracks I kept from Shock Value.

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Adding injury to insults "Paper Planes" would be a pretty awesome way to finish an album!

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Through the magic of itunes it can be thus!

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Paradise (Not for Me) is on both the Mirwais & Madonna (Music) albums. It is my favourite on both.

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This practice goes back for years, at least as far as 'This Is The Shack' appearing on both Warren G's Regulate and The Dove Shack's This Is The Shack album, some twelve years ago. But I'm sure Martin, Mark S or Frank can trace it back to the dark ages...

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Or putting the same Rolling Stones song on two or three different (nonhits) Rolling Stones albums (which probably happened more in the U.S.). Actually, Aly & AJ did this with "Chemicals React" though the version on Insomniatic is a remix and sounds somewhat better, and it only had previously been on the "Deluxe" rerelease of Into The Rush.

Actually, that's a general complaint, New Deluxe Editions that come out six months after the original album with two new songs on it.

And in the mode of Aly & A.J.-related complaints, what about the fact that they released different versions of Insomniatic to different stores, and "Blush" wasn't on the version available for legal downloading.

I mean, it's almost as if the record companies want us not to feel guilty about unauthorized downloading.

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"Baby girl" is Tim's thing though, he says "baby girl" on EVERY SINGLE ONE of his tracks and it's a bit wearing now.

(The actual roots/reason for this - Baby Girl was Aaliyah's actual real nickname, and I think Tim constantly using it is his way of saying "never forget Aaliyah".)

The teepee line is terrible though.

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