Is Every Band/Artist Capable Of Making A Good Pop Record?

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

OK maybe a "quite good" one.

I thought about this in the wake of the "Dakota" controversy earlier this year. There are actually not v.many artists who have managed to avoid making at least one record that works as pop somehow. I think the Stereophonics might still qualify but many wd defend that song at least.

So name some and we can try to think of counter-examples from amidst their oeoeoeuvre.

Obviously this does not count i) people who've only been around for one record and are still getting their fun-hating phase out the way, ii) Wire magazine regulars.

I will be posting an important piece of evidence later today.

Comments

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

yes, I can't see the justification for this one - it seems a kind of circular argument. No bands avoid this! We will prove this by disqualifying any bands who avoid this!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

OK OK leave them in, it was a lame sideswipe at that august publication. I haven't heard any Jandek records anyway.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I'm not saying "no bands avoid this" really, I'm saying "not many do", and excluded the Wire to try and shunt the discussion into more interesting areas than what the Wire covers.

I JUDGE THAT...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

... the distinction being made is something like this: there exist a subsection of recording artists who don't make records to SELL, but to DOCUMENT THEIR ART (or some such), and hence don't count as counterexamples to th claim that ALL BANDS WHO MAKE RECORDS TO SELL IN LARGE NUMBERS IF ONLY IF ONLY - but not aimed at bein chartpop - CAN/WILL (BY ACCIDENT MAYBE) MAKE A GOOD POP RECORD

Except U2

Re: I JUDGE THAT...

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

pls explain further USING DIAGRAMS okthxbye

Re: I JUDGE THAT...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

----> :p

Re: I JUDGE THAT...

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

can we call this the "and if other people like what we're doing, that's a bonus" distinction?

Re: I JUDGE THAT...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

if other people think it's POP that's a bonus