A kung fu fighter in a disco

Aldo Ranks did a single last year that I love love loved, so I'm not down on reggaeton per se, but I just happen to hate "Gasolina".

Hated "Papichulo" too. The King Africa is Rather Good, though.

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One of my friends who used to live in Spain has just emailed me describing Lorna as "a walking clap clinic", heh.

I just re-read the Stylus reviews and your Daddy Yankee one sounds like Alex in NYC talking about Destiny's Child!

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It does, a bit, doesn't it? Really, though, I had such a negative, visceral reaction to it - hate hate hate, though. But I can enjoy other things in the genre. "Bootylicious" aside, I don't care for Destiny's Child EITHER, but my ire doesn't reach up to AiNYC levels.

The Aldo Ranks single I liked is "El Baile Del Pescao", I have remembered. Just re-listened and it is indeed insistent, catchy and wonderful. (Which reminds me, did you get ahold of "El Baile Del Gorila (The Gorilla Dance)" by Melody, which also turned up when I searched for "el baile" on the hard drive).

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umlauts' opposite: "Gasolina" is the only track of these that I really love as opposed to just like, where the repetition feels like a plus plus plus rather than an eh.

(Also until now I did not realise that my bizarre aversion to 'groove is in the heart' extended even to its use as a sample!)

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'El Baile De Pescado' is also on the reggaeton primer I downloaded! Is it the Lil Jon rmx of 'Gasolina' you hate or the original? This is slightly unfathomable to me, sorry, it is very much my single of the year (joint with Ciara's 'Oh', I guess).

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Oh and yes I have the Gorilla Dance, it is excellent. Melody's like nine years old isn't she?

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Because you are averse to GIITH, I'm claiming moral high ground over you. So ner. (haha).

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I don't like either version, as it happens. But I'm so over Lil Jon (note misleading implication I was ever, er, not over him, I was about to type "under him", in fact, I kind of just did, DIDN'T I), anyway, so hearing that version FIRST probably killed it.

There are spoiler versions of Gasolina in some European charts, or at least WERE at some point, IIRC. I haven't heard them.

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She was. She'd be almost a teenager by now, perhaps, or maybe she is. She's not popular anymore, maybe when she gets breasts she'll be big again.

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You have an aversion to 'Groove Is In The Heart'! I'm shocked!

'Gasolina' is just so...galloping. It is a song to punch the air to.

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I was disappointed to see that you mention one of those songs samples Corona, I got all excited. Not that C&C Music Factory is not a decent substitute (Aldo Ranks is now my de facto reggaeton artist of choice, obv), but the idea of a song sampling "The Rhythm Of The Night" or "Baby Baby" might make me explode with gooey glee.

Please say someone has done this and that's why you were confused!

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I'm sorry, I can't help it that I'm more punk than you. (ner!)

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Oh you are part of the anti-Lil Jon crowd, there is no reasoning with you lot! I thought you liked Brooke Valentine?

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The King Africa track dude!

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I have a suspicion that EVERYONE is more punk than me. I am the least punk person who ever existed. I once liked a NOFX single, but I think that's it.

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I can hear "Rhythm Is A Dancer" in it, but no Corona :(

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I heart Brooke, but I don't like Lil Jon's annoying yowling over everything. Cut him off "Girlfight" and I'd have given it a 10 on the jukebox that week (instead of an 8).

Several BV tracks would get 10s from me. I'd give "I Want You Dead" about 40 out of 10, too.

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I think by my definition of punk that makes you more punk than anyone. (my definition of punk == avril lavigne is more punk than eg brody dalle, my friend who came into class one day in a rage against the machine t-shirt while having absolutely no clue who rage against the machine are is more punk than etc etc etc, I think I stole this off someone, mark s maybe.)

NOFX can be a good pop band when they put their mind to it, though I was always more into the Less Than Jake.

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I can't explain it, but that song really pisses me off, in like every possible way. It's one of the few songs I will actively leave the dancefloor for.

Gasolina is just - the intro, right, humming, building up, and those distant shouts, it's like those music videos where they're in a huge deserted parking lot burning oil-soaked rags or something in barrels for warmth and the lights are orange with age and the tarmac ground is shiny-wet and the air thick and humid and no-one's quite dancing yet but they're moving, with intent, a little sinuous, and you just know it's all about to go off. (also I used to hear it in the gym and be like - girlfight! no, wait-) And, yes, galloping is definitely the word.

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But I wuv Avwiw best when she does power ballads and not even remotely punk songs. Which is why "I'm With You" and "Slipped Away" are the secret killers in her repertoire. Mall Screaming Whining Avril >>>> Pop Punk Sneer Avril.

I know who Rage Against The Machine are, and hate them (possible exception of "Bulls On Parade", no, wait, that was awful too, just slightly better than normal), so I fail on that score.

Wait, I've remembered a passing fondness for Pennywise. ARGH SECRET NON POP LIKING PAST MATERIALISING MUST REPRESS NOW AARGHH.

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That is v. Mark S aye.

Good to have you back btw.

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Lil Jon's shouting is GREBT not annoying. As I said, no reasoning! His shouting is like the drug-spiked icing on the big rum-soaked cake of crunk, the element which pushes you RIGHT up there.

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I think I'm getting my early 90s Eurotechno confused. I now have no idea what I was talking about and given my office environs can confirm/deny nothing.

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It makes me want to hurt adorable puppies, that's what.

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Yes yes yes that image is perfect. And despite the out of control-ness it's so perfectly structured - the builds and the falls, the climaxes and the lulls. The bridge and the "zumbale mambo pa' que mi gata prenda lo motores" bit, oh my god.

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You're spot-on on the perfectly structured part - I think that's why I gut-feeling thought it more 'pop' than the other tracks in this batch, though it's also more crunk, the intro in particular, the shininess in the spaces (a bit of it reminded me of one of the dudes in Orishas too, but that might have been an automatic rap-in-Spanish reaction).

The 'zumbale mambo pa que mi gata prenda lo motores' bit!! Definitely my favourite part, that build-up, that... okay, for me, this track is the reggaeton "So Much Love To Give".

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Yes yes but without Pop Punk Sneer Avril there is no "Since U Been Gone", is there? She may not have been the one, but what a prototype. I am a sucker for the pop-punk sneergirls, I think it comes from being an emoist.

I hated RATM On Principle when I was er perhaps ten years old, because my brother liked them, and he'd encouraged me to like Take That and now I HATED them because the second album was RUBBISH and they WEREN'T COOL or some other rubbish pre-teen reasoning. I know it wasn't particularly logical because I um liked Ugly Kid Joe at the time. So there's a soft spot remains for the first album, though everything afterwards appears to have been cock.

Embrace the rubbish skapunk past! be one with it! you have to face your traumatic memories to get over them, isn't it?

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Skapunk?

Punk, maybe, JUST A LITTLE BIT, after all, I was a disenfranchised 14-year old WHO DID NOT YET FIT IN, but... SKA?

No, that was always a bridge too far.

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Ah, well, one of these days I'll have an original thought.

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uh-huh, honey, you just keep saying that.

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I think I have forgotten nearly all of the ska punk bands that were biggish ca 1994-1998 when I quite liked the not-pop. Refresh memory, please?

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er, I'd have to dig out the tapes my friends made for me as I never bought much, but Rancid? Epitaph bands are all I remember, but whether they were punk or ska-punk... I always thought Pennywise were skapunk, but could be wrong. It's all a bit distant now.

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What is "reggaeton" a mixture of? Reggae and what? I can't think where the "ton" bit comes from.

I download Lorna and King Africa, didn't love either but if I had to pick I'd go for Lorna as KA pretty much ruins the Snap song there for me.

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