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WHY I HATE BALLADS

I just hate them. I always have - I find them embarrassing, cringeworthy, and for the most part devoid of tune. But it's only recently, after 3 days of enforced listening to Magic FM, that I've been able to crystallise some thoughts about WHY I hate ballads. And here they are. This is not a comprehensive list by any means, and I'm sure there are exceptions to each of the points that I raise, and that at some point I'm sure I'll be accused of HAVING NO SOUL, but this is just what I came up with during my lunch break...

1) What do the following songs have in common: "How Do I Live", "How Am I Supposed To Live Without You?", "I can't liiiiiiive, if living is without yooooou"? Yep, that's right - EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL. So you got dumped? I really don't mean to be unsympathetic, I've been there myself - I know you're feeling sh1tty about it all, and you just want to go and live in a cave on your own and shun human contact for a few months. You probably still love the other person, and you might even try to win them back by, oh I don't know, seeing if you can talk it over with them, or trying to prove that you're sorry, or even offering them COLD HARD CASH. But all this "you've dumped me so you've effectively killed me" is a) horrid, cynical emotional blackmail, b) proves that you're probably a bit of an obsessed stalker-type and will likely have the recipient of said sentiments running for the hills, and c) is just a bit over the top and embarrassing, really. In any case - JUST STOP IT. YOU ARE GOING TO SURVIVE. HAVE A CUP OF TEA. On a completely tangential note, I guess this is why pop songs about SURVIVING are so great - Destiny's Child, Gloria Gaynor, even Sir Elton who is Still Standing - all these are uplifting and life affirming, as opposed to this horrid depressing melodramatic SLOP.

2) And going back to the "if living is without yoooooooou" part of that previous paragraph, why IS it that so many ballads are sung as though the singer is trying to throw a dude against a wall with the power of his/her (though it's usually her) voice alone? CHRISTINA AGUILERA I AM LOOKING AT YOU. I'm sure the song you're singing would have more emotional resonance if you'd just HOLD BACK a bit, dear - going "hnrrrgh" and grunting like M. Seles at the start and end of every line makes it bloody exhausting to listen to you, and makes me suspect just a teeeeny little bit that this is an exercise in vocal grandstanding, rather than one in actually trying to convey any emotion. Same goes for "whooaahoaahoaahh" all over the bloody scale, for goodness sake shuttup for just a few SECONDS! And just in case you think I'm being horrid and picking on Ms A, it's not that I think her voice is bad, far far FAR from it - the version of "Mercy On Me" on [livejournal.com profile] martinskidmore's Best Of 2006 CD is stop-what-you're-doing-and-OMG-listen great. And the REASON it's so great is that there's some actual control in the voice there, not just yowling as loudly as possible. Singing loudly and powerfully is fine, it just doesn't mean anything if it's only done for the sake of it. And it gives me a headache.

3) No-one, whether they're coupled-up or not, likes the spectacle of billing and cooing in public. It is just plain EMBARRASSING. If you want to make a declaration, do it the old-fashioned way with a nice private letter, maybe scented, maybe with accompanying chocs and flowers. Or ask the object of your affections if they would like to visit a cinema/restaurant/zoo/PUB with you. Or send them naughty text messages about what underwear you're wearing today (NB this last suggestion strictly for those who are already WITH the object of their affections; otherwise you are likely to look like a bit of a pervy creep). Don't put your feelings in absurd verse to an insipid tune and subject the rest of us to it.

4) Boybands. Have you ever seen such a bunch of fvcking drips in your entire life? Most of them are so weak that they can't even stand, and have to sit on stools whilst singing. One can only wonder what they'd DO with a gurl should said gurl ever respond to their heartfelt pleas to fly with them without wings, or something.

5) You CAN'T DANCE to ballads.

Date: 2007-02-02 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Ktee did you get the POPTIMISM SPECIAL BALLADS GIVEAWAY CD! I designed it specifically for ppl who hate ballads! (well sort of)

Excellent post!

Date: 2007-02-02 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
About five years ago I would have totally agreed with you. Now I only agree with parts 4) and 5) - GET OFF THEM STOOLS and dance about a bit lads! No song is improved by stools unless you are dancing around them in a Chicago-type fashion.

But the worst sort of ballad is the DUET. Nelly and Kelly this means YOU.

Back to yr points: (taking Mariah's Without You as our example) I WUV this song because her vocal is totally over the top and has no control JUST LIKE HER HEART. So I disagree with point 2) as yodelling yr emotions is endearing to me, but I can see how other people might find it tiresome. As for points 1) & 3), I am sure noone wants to hear about Sisqo's thongs either but it still makes for an good song. I find subject matter secondary in importance to CHOONE and GUSTO.

(Five years ago I would have rated 'Without You' as one of the worst songs ever but now I am OLDER and indeed WISER and have realised you CAN dance to it but sadly only in your MIND)

Date: 2007-02-02 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Power ballads - "Total Eclipse" etc - are like the pop equivalent of the pathetic fallacy, with the crashing orchestration as the weather.

Date: 2007-02-02 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Ciara (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHzJVltdWY) and Justin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpfpON3IoeQ) can dance to ballads!

I agree with point 4.

Great Boyband Ballads

Date: 2007-02-02 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Duran Duran - Save An Prayer
Backstreet Boys - Shape Of My Heart
East 17 - Stay Another Day
Take That - A Million Love Songs
Wham - Last Christmas (also Careless Whisp and A Different Corner, the latter of which has v.indie lyrics)
Five - Closer To You

OK Westlife have never done a good one, but they have given stoolpop a BAD NAME.

Date: 2007-02-02 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Point 1 - yr response is perfectly valid, and I have felt the same way in the past. OTOH there are people who, even if it's only for a few brief moments, do feel sorry for themselves cos they've been dumped or whatever, and are therefore happy to empathise with a singer who is expressing such sentiments. This at least justifies the existence of such songs.

It is also possible to have an emotional response to the music of a heartache ballad without even paying any attention to the words. I have a story to tell re "Without You", but I am saving it for when Tom gets to the Nilsson song on Popular. ;)

Date: 2007-02-02 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
Good point re 'emotional blackmail', also it is MELODRAMATIC FEEBLE EMO-NESS. Of course you can live without someone.

I think Madonna's 'Crazy For You' is my favourite ballad at the mo.

Date: 2007-02-02 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
An exception: Lorraine Ellison's "Stay With Me", cos it's one of the few songs in this genre which sounds like the singer's universe IS actually ending.

Date: 2007-02-02 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You can play air guitar to ballads! Which is kinda dancing, especially the guitar solo.

But, then I refer to proper power-ballads - like Carrie by Europe, or Every Rose Has It's Thorn, or the Ballad of Jayne, or Miles Away by Winger or some Journey song or another.

Power metal ballads = the greatest form of music ever created by humankind. Just slightly better than battle metal.

peace,

jel

Date: 2007-02-02 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com
just HOLD BACK a bit, dear
It is just plain EMBARRASSING.
JUST STOP IT. YOU ARE GOING TO SURVIVE. HAVE A CUP OF TEA.

Are you saying that ballads are essentially un-British?

Anyway, I hate ballads with all the R&B trilling, but there are good ones with choons. And "Crazy" is a grate ballad.

And Marna would tell you that a ballad is a song or pome telling the story of something/someone anyway, not just a slow tempo stomach heart churner.

Date: 2007-02-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
People do too dance to ballads. It's called slow dancing, tends to be done in couples. But performers tend not to dance to ballads, nor do they hire backup singers to dance along with their ballads.

Date: 2007-02-03 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Ah pt 4 reminds me of pop writing unintentionally working crossgenre: to wit Tom's definition of the tempo constant w, below which (esp) all boyband ballads hits become indistinguishable. (The letter chosen I believe was due to Westlife). This resonated quite a bit with me when I read it years ago, since I've always had the same problem with the 2nd movements of most any classical-era symphony/sonata/concerto...

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