The History Of Jop Part 13 aka It's fun to lose and to pretend

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Back after a short absence it's the Pazz and Jop poll for 1991 - a particular blockbuster of a poll this with TEN ticks to be shared between 28 singles (would have been 29 but for C&C Music Factory cropping up last year too).

There's a fair bit of ground to cover in the comments boxes, I'm thinking!


[Poll #845917]


1990: Time For The (Poptimist) Guru

1. Groove Is In The Heart (48 votes)
2. Vogue (42)
3. Nothing Compares 2 U (34)
4. Gonna Make You Sweat (28)
5. Been Caught Stealin (26)
6. Justify My Love (25)
7. Hold On (24)
8. Kool Thing (21)
9. Epic (19)
10=. Welcome To The Terrordome (18)
10=. 911 Is A Joke (18)

Note very rapid drop off in vote totals from 1-3 down.

Comments

Re: Harm Me With Harmony!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

OPP feature on a compilation in my possession entitled "Rave Alert" (after the Praga Khan track). Hmm.

Greatest Award for 1991

[koganbot]

According to Rob Sheffield, the winner of the 'TURNED ON THE TV, SAW ALL THE SMOKE AND CHURNING BODIES, ASSUMED IT WAS MORE OF THE COLLAPSE OF HISTORY OVER IN THE SOVIET UNION, NOTICED IT WAS REALLY LISETTE MELENDEZ' AWARD for 1991 was Lisette Melendez. ("Nobody won it last year.")

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

An certain BUSKER on the Piccadilly Line to Heathrow has forever ruined LMR for me.

Re: GOD I HATE NIRVANA

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I missed them at the time because the thing is they were NEVER huge, chartwise - I mean huge in a way that a top 10-following 9-yr-old would be aware of them. It took me until well into the mid-90s to work out that that awful song I kept hearing (usually at middle school discos: tended to clear the floor of all but the smelly wannabe-sk8er boys) was 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'.

Re: COLOR ME GOOD MORE LIKE

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

would've been my 12th ticky

Meanwhile In Britain

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The NME top 50

Higher than the sun - Primal Scream
Justified & ancient - The KLF
Loosing my religion - REM
Starsign - Teenage Fanclub
The concept - Teenage Fanclub
Get the message - Electronic
Smell like teen spirit - Nirvana
Unfinished sympathy - Massive Attack
Pearl - Chapterhouse
Size of a cow - The Wonder Stuff
Sexuality - Billy Bragg
I won't try - Midway still
Only love can break your heart - St Etienne
Playing with knives - Bizarre inc.
I'm to sexy - Right said Fred
Happy - Ned's atomic dustbin
After the watershed - Carter USM
Feel so sad - Spiritalized
Set adrift on memory bliss - PM Dawn
Wear your love like heaven - Definition of sound
Waterproof EP - Kingmaker
Motown junk - Manic street preachers
Where the streets have no name - Pet shop boys
Endless art - A House
You love us - Manic street preachers
The fly - U2
Infiltrate - Altern 8
Destined to be free - Fabulous
Apparently nothing - Young disciples
What do I have to do - Kilie Minogue
My legendary girlfriend - Pulp
Gett off - Prince
Carwash hair - Mercury Rev
Cream - Prince
Dominator - Human Resource
No score after extra time - Thousand yard stare
Not superstitious - Leatherface
Superelectric - Stereolab
Planet of sound - Pixies
Bring the noise - Anthrax/Public Enemy
Go - Moby
Missing on the moon - Field Mice
Tasty fish - The other two
There’s no other way - Blur
Pregnant for the last time - Morrissey
Words that say - Mega city four
Young people - Pooh sticks
Tremolo EP - My bloody valentine
Drive that fast - Kitchens of distinction
Frozen EP - Curve

Notice that indie has basically 'won' by this point.

I have a meeting in 5 mins so someone else can do the MM chart, which makes similar and grim reading (w/more of an emphasis on gothy shoe noize I guess)

Re: GOD I HATE NIRVANA

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

yeah it's not like they had a #1 single. i actually HATED 'smells like teen spirit' at first but this was largely because of the terrible rendition of it on Top Of The Pops. they fared far better on Jonathan Ross with 'Territorial Pissings', somehow, but it was oddly not until 'Come As You Are's release that i began to like them.

Re: dubdobdee vs infov0re FITE!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

this is the only Divynyls song i even know let alone like

Jacko's last stand

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

'Black Or White' is the last good MJ song. It's all downhill from here.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

God, it has, hasn't it? Poor old Right Said Fred and KLF sandwiched in with a load of BOBBINS.

[I possess a) that Thousand Yard Stare EP b) at least four Wonderstuff albums]

The Indie That Killed Me

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The bands that particularly prompted me to stop reading the NME were:

The Wonder Stuff (91 incarnation), NEDS, Kingmaker, FABULOUS (this was an NME writer's side project IIRC), Thousand Yard Stare. If the blame is to be laid at a single door it would be Neds Atomic Dustbin.

Re: Here Is Something You Can't Understand

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

I deeply regret not including either of these tracks (or 3rd Bass. or The Goats) on my '91 Ultramix - neither registered at the time but this isn't much of an excuse.

Re: GOD I HATE NIRVANA

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I have never ever ever wavered in my loathing of them, they really do just make a HORRIBLE NOISE which when you scratch the surface reveals only TEENAGE BOY MOANING ie BORING GO AWAY PLEASE.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

does much of the rest of grunge sound like nirvana?

(i saw a "making of the classic alb" doc which made me like it all over again DESPITE presence of dave grolge or whatever he's called and plus the other one -- the producer (was it spot?) was rly charmin and interestin)

(however HYSTERIA by DEF LEP was even more interestin in this same strand)

Re: dubdobdee vs infov0re FITE!

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

i think they are the perfect example of 'one hit wonder despite releasing other singles'.

Re: Most Inexplicable Omission

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

This question is URGENT AND KEY.

'Finally' is better than ANYTHING on this list.

Re: Jacko's last stand

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

no, 'Scream' is great!

Re: Most Inexplicable Omission

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

'Finally' was a bigger hit in '92 i think, in the UK at least.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

[graciousviv.livejournal.com]

Did you buy that as well then?

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

yeh that 'Hysteria' making of is great - at least the one i've seen is. it made me finally accept that Mutt Lange is a stone cold genius.

I was a Complete Chump for not voting for "Smells Like Teen Spirit"

[koganbot]

1. Corina "Temptation" (Cutting Records)
2. Lisette Melendez "A Day In My Life (Without You)" (Fever)
3. Enigma "Sadeness" (Charisma)
4. Naughty By Nature "O.P.P." (Tommy Boy)
5. Shonen Knife "Lazy Bone" (Rockville)
6. Sandee "Love Desire" (Fever)
7. Mysterious Art "The Omen"
8. Geto Boys "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" (Rap-A-Lot)
9. Ce Ce Peniston "Finally" (A&M)
10. R.E.M. "Losing My Religion" (Warner Bros.)

I was a complete chump for not voting for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "How I Could Just Kill A Man." My excuse on the latter was that it came out late in the year and I hadn't fully absorbed its brilliance. Also, it scared the shit out of me. (It scored #5 in 1992's poll.) My excuse on the former isn't very good: I was so full of utter resentment at the triumph of "alternative" over so much better music that I wasn't willing to acknowledge that it had produced a great song.

I still haven't finished unpacking from moving, so I don't know what box Sandee and the Mysterious Omen and Shonen Knife are hiding in - therefore don't know if they belong, or were basically overrated by me in order to defeat Nirvana. If I hadn't voted for them I might have voted for "Unbelievable" or Mylene Farmer's "Psychiatric" or Yo-Yo's "Stompin to the '90s" just to keep Nirvana off.

Anyway, the top three songs of 1991 ("A Day In My Life Without You," "Smells Like Teen Spirit," "Temptation") could well be the top three songs of the DECADE, though I might sneak "Lollipop (Candyman)" or "Nann" or "...Baby One More Time" or "Violet" or "Doll Parts" ahead of "Temptation."

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

[koganbot]

"Justified and Ancient" should get boldness too (made the 1992 Pazz & Jop).

Re: Most Inexplicable Omission

[koganbot]

But didn't make the '92 Pazz & Jop either.

yooooooooooooo couulld be miiiiiiiiiine

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

surprused by lack of GnR actually - can't remember the reviews for Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 at the time but remember the excitement here - stores opening at midnight for 'first time ever' etc.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

No I stole it off you. Dude you didn't have a record player!