[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
ok usually when i do this kind of thing i frame the question fast and badly (or i wd never frame it at all) and [livejournal.com profile] koganbot becomes testy towards my fuzziness

but here is MY "explanation" of morrissey = he brought something to the boywing of britrock = called CAMP -- as in polari, as in an angry bitchy code against the UNSTYLISH USELESSNESS of the STRAIGHTS -- except that, since he wz militantly coy abt his sexuality (korrektly, as "coming out" would have stripped a powerful ambiguity out of what he wz doin), his camp was developed as a kind of MALE HET camp...

ANYWAY -- i have always bin ambivalent abt camp as an attitude (it's quickwitted and funny but it's also a compensatory attitude adopted by those who take themselves to be victims and are sniping secretly back...)

and given the shifts since the mid-80s in fashions in sexuality and within sexuality blah blah, i think morrissey's STYLE (sex! yes! but not for me...) reveals itself as a lot more reactionary a-and larkinesque than it did at the time

(again i feel i have not got at the nubbin of what i'm on about but have at it anyway)

Date: 2006-09-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
haha I read that as "the way Emlyn Hughes weaves..." at first and... well, you can imagine! I really am skimming posts too quickly as per usual today!

On topic: while I agree with most of the posts on this thread, it should also be remembered that there were lots of people (well me anyway) who loved Morrissey's contribution to The Smiths' records for complete different reasons to the ones cited. Which I can't articulate other than to say it's something to do with his really really weird ear for melodies.

Date: 2006-09-21 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Re "really really weird ear for melodies": Yes! And tied in with this:

-- Occasionally really really weird phrasing, e.g. rushing a load of syllables faster than necessary and then filling out with la-di-da or something;

-- Frequent repetition of lines, but with small variations -- I believe this has a particular effect even if one doesn't really follow the lyrics closely, ie it works as variations in sound.

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