[identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
...has broken out on this thread. Since I am now using 'poptimist' with scare quotes, it may be possible that I am about to publicly 'break' with 'the' 'movement'. :-)

Date: 2006-08-22 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com
Isn't that a slightly loose retelling of the story? Two people have sex on camera (whilst the male partner is still married to someone else). The video is then sold to Red Light, in an amazingly well-timed PR coup for a "celebrity" nobody had actually heard of before, two weeks before her prime time TV show starts. Said celebrity then claims to have been drug raped during a lawsuit, until Red Light agree to pay her a percentage of the profits.

So the upshoot of this is either a) it's OK to lie about being raped if you think it will win you lots of money or b) it doesn't matter if a woman says "No" as long as you pay her afterwards.

Yay feminism.

Date: 2006-08-22 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cis.livejournal.com
or c) if there's been a sex tape sold of you there is no way you will be able to claw back any kind of dignity from the situation so you might as well go all-out and try and get something; no matter what you do you will be branded a whore, what's the point in trying to be otherwise.

I've never heard your version of the events before: I have no idea what's 'true'.

I'm not sure what place 'yay feminism' has here? I suppose if there is ugly dishonesty here she'd be taking unfair advantage of the benefits feminism has brough for women but that's just what happens: the existence of benefit cheats doesn't morally invalidate the welfare state.

Date: 2006-08-22 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dickmalone.livejournal.com
But it doesn't make her particularly feminist, does it?

Date: 2006-08-22 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cis.livejournal.com
Where am I supposed to have said that she's feminist?

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