a fight for the soul of poptimism...

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...has broken out on this thread. Since I am now using 'poptimist' with scare quotes, it may be possible that I am about to publicly 'break' with 'the' 'movement'. :-)

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There are several reasons why one might celebrate or indeed fetishise Paris Hilton but not Robbie Williams, irrespective of whether one fronts better (however you define that) music generally than the other.

This is a v interesting pickle tho. My probs with Robbie are not actually that he is barely a talent at all, quite mediocre in every respect (as is Paris, tho she has more of a 'blank slate' feel somehow - perhaps just because she is newer than Robbie) but more that his music and songs do not appeal, being as they often quite weak, awkwardly written ballads or pub-rocky/MOR plodders. He has come close to goodness on occasion but 'Rock DJ' and 'Supreme' do not qualify for my iTunes playlist regardless - and nor will 'Rudebox' because of the genuinely poor rapping for which I cannot see a virtue (it could've been great but was misjudged).