a fight for the soul of poptimism...

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

...has broken out on this thread. Since I am now using 'poptimist' with scare quotes, it may be possible that I am about to publicly 'break' with 'the' 'movement'. :-)

Comments

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

But that's really horrible though.

(have been reading many articles about how feminism has regressed over the past decade, and many things are acceptable now which weren't in the 90s; i agree, and blame lads' mags)

[cis.livejournal.com]

it's horrible but it's a very common reaction among both women and men!

My personal most saddenning thing about feminism these days is that so many young women say "i'm not a feminist or anything" when they so clearly have feminist values, because to them "feminist" means "horrible strident man-hater", and it seems like nothing can be done to turn them around on this.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

yes, i find i want to smack them around the head with a copy of the second sex. which is not altogether removed from what lads' mags readers wants to do but with a different instrument. UGH.