a fight for the soul of poptimism...

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

...has broken out on this thread. Since I am now using 'poptimist' with scare quotes, it may be possible that I am about to publicly 'break' with 'the' 'movement'. :-)

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Well #2 is misogyny, which we can roll our eyes about but it's silly to pretend doesn't play a part in people's judgement.

#3 you're missing Andrew's point - most people enjoyed those programmes because the point of them was to LAUGH AT PARIS! i.e.

"Paris thinks she can work on a farm. Have a laugh at her getting it wrong in an endearing fashion."

is not a HUGE step from

"Paris thinks she can make a record. Have a laugh at her getting it wrong in an endearing fashion."

That is the pre-arranged media script for the album. You are departing quite strongly from it and getting people's back up, in the same way as someone being serious at an office party might.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

But wasn't the point of the programme that Paris neither thought she could work on a farm nor particularly cared?

When I talked to her PR he said he wanted people to treat it like they would the Xtina album. And it hasn't actually been savaged by critics particularly.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Lex a PR who tells journalists, "Go on then, have a laugh at my client", is not going to keep their job very long!!! (or is AWESOMELY clever if they do!)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

But it's difficult to treat it the same as the Xtina album because the latter is/has a better overall product i.e. terrific voice, huge production values. Paris could have the latter but not the former (and I might prefer PH album production if it's more 'modern' or 'futuristic' than Xtina's retro bluster. But she could still be as arresting (a more appropriate word than 'convincing' perhaps) as Xtina. Is she though? On occasion, almost!