Britpop (Again)

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

What was the first Britpop record?

What was the last Britpop record? And the last Britpop band?

"It's impossible to be Actual* Pop and Actual Rock simultaneously!"

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

the lex just claimed this: is he korrekt?

my response = it is NOT COMMON CERTAINLY but it has happened, like a kind of harmonic convergence within recorded music after -- with things after never the same as before

for example:
i. stones
ii. sabbaf
iii. slade/pistols (=essentially the same thing anyway)
iv. pulp fiction inspired resurgence of SURF sound

obv plenty of bands have been one then the other but not simultaneously, and some have even switched back again

*note use of ACTUAL here must not be employed in any kind of essentialist slipperiness, bcz that kind of behaviour is INDIE

IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

false metal = a subgenre of metal
fake rock = a subgenre of rock
bad pop = a subgenre of pop*

(also ps wow there is tons of grebt stuff on these threads!)

re the stones: the overlap year is 1966, when they were constantly in the charts, but "rock" had not yet firmed up as a "thing" (it was being done but not yet being pointed at unerringly) -- what's key to THEM tho is that they were already doing the "fake" thing as a self-marker -- they didn't play blues or R&B (old skool def) or country or soul, they played Fake Blues, Fake R&B, Fake Country, Fake Soul (not to be confused w.plastic soul!) (or indeed RUBBER SOUL!) -- later they purged their popness and became the "greatest rock'n'roll band in the world", and a certain amont of back formation and redefinition occurred

as actual overlap i would personally propose: under my thumb and mother's little helper

Let's talk about "Fundamental"

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

One listen, only one track i want to relisten to right now. Maybe two. (Meanwhile I'm in love with the new Futureheads album.)

We could talk about how crushing it is to find your relationship with a band has hit total apathy (another PSB album? oh right), and how a band you once loved fit to busting, a part of your identity has gone a bit meh. We could talk about new/old passions. The PSB's self described "imperial phase" (and that theory applied elsewhere).

Or we could say, well tune X is ok, and the lyrics are fun, where are the exciting bits, blah?

Let's not talk about if they are pop or indie. they are both, and it doesn't matter. they ARE pop, and we talk about that here

The Pop World Cup: Japan vs France

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The fourth and last quarter-final is perhaps the most eagerly awaited - two form teams with a commitment to stylish, attacking pop. cis' Japan are tournament favourites, but atommickbrane's France have shown they are no pushovers and this game could well go either way. This game could decide the whole tournament, some pundits are saying - we at FIPA feel that may be disrespectful to the other surviving teams, but see what you think...

Tracks can be found at http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/popworldcup/ - if there's any problem email me at freakytrigger@gmail.com.

( The TEAMSHEETS )

So how will this match be lost or won?

( The rules...and THE POLL )

The deadline for votes here is NOON on MONDAY. There is still 24 hours meanwhile to vote in the Czech Republic v Togo quarter-final, which at half-time stood as a dour 0-0 draw with few chances on either side. Up to you to liven things up there!

Pop World Cup: FIPA Incompetence 'Shocker'

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I messed up the poll for the Czech/Togo quarter final - IF YOU ARE VOTING IN THIS PLEASE EMAIL YOUR VOTES DIRECTLY TO freakytrigger@gmail.com - DO NOT USE THE POLL.

People who have already voted on the poll - don't worry about this, they've been counted (or not in the case of Greg's).

You have until noon tomorrow.