The Naff

Jun. 29th, 2006 10:19 am
[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
What is the relationship between coolness and naffness in pop history.

A version of it wd describe pop history as essentially a story of a thread of coolness constantly besieged by naffness. This seems deeply unsatisfactory to me.

Date: 2006-06-29 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
But arbiter still has to decide, yesno? Like Mr Hopkins' example of the dude in the deerstalker hat at the hip-hop club.

Date: 2006-06-29 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumsbitch.livejournal.com
And that has huge amounts to do with context.

And, I'd say, (self-)confidence of presentation. Which may come back to the 'indifferent to cool=cool' thing...

Date: 2006-06-29 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
ok but marge is saying" what if *i* am an arbiter?" -- those who think she is go and set up another club where this can be explored!

i think the stonecutters ep has much to teach us also

Date: 2006-06-29 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Next logical step: do we need the 'club'? I think we do, and I think it has to be a club that others would want to join but cannot for some reason.

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