Do they mean us??!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

WOULD YOU LET YOUR DAUGHTER MARRY A POPTIMIST?

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[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

if so "we" are winning = ie BOTH JODIES ARE ON OUR SIDE (sorta)

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

=:-O

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

i am going to petition our dictionary ppl to get rockism and poptimism in the corpus

[atommickbrane.livejournal.com]

JBR sure haf changed!

PS - reading = rockist so wotevs I will bother later when not busy eating sea creatures.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Beyoncé is as worthy of serious consideration as Bruce Springsteen

MORE worthy surely!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

now THAT is rockism

[zenith.livejournal.com]

Funnily enough in the discussion in An Other place about the other Slate piece linked to within that one (the slightly shrieky "how DARE they call Stevie Merritt a racist!" one, although it cannot be denied that SFJ and Hopper fucked that one up royally), I suggested half-jokingly that calling someone a rockist was now considered worse than calling them a racist...

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

so did EMP lay into the whole current "guilty pleasures" thing?

and what's all this cruft about Merritt being a racialist??

[thenipper.livejournal.com]

Summary: Merritt indulging his epater le hipster Hongroiste tendencies (eg: "I only like black music up to Dizzy Gillespie"), says that he thinks 'Zip a dee doo da' is the only good happy song ever. S F-J accuses him of being a 'Song of the South' apologist, being a 'cracker', supporting slavery etc. Everyone gets in a big tizz. They all lez up. Fin.

[thenipper.livejournal.com]

"...up to Duke Ellington", my mistake. They all look the same to me

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

haha i wz gnna say! dizzy's trumpet = wild anti-hongrist scream of cackles!

(stanley crouch of course wd say that ALL HIPHOP = MINSTRELSY for WHITEY)

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

Actually, I think at the time, Hopper accused him of etc etc, Sasha just linked to a post he'd made about Merritt a couple years back addressing the same issue.

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

i just read that the "zip-a-dee-doo-da" comment was in the context of guilty pleasures, which pulls that punch. also it makes me think that this explores the possibility of real actual guilty pleasures. i.e. not a song you love even tho "you shouldn't cos it's thort of as cheese/poor/low brow" but because the song is morally wrong, or tainted in some sense. (this really hadn't occurred to me til now!)

[thebopkids.livejournal.com]

GET ONE TICKLE TUNE. Or don't, obv.

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

wait, is this our JBR or the other one? i get confused...

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Is there more than one? I, too, was laboring under the impression that JBR is a GURL.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

This is in the ILM FAQ!

Jody Beth Rosen = ILM Regular, gurl.

Jody Rosen = Longer-established rock critic, boy.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

however boy/gurl distinction-makin = MORE ROCKIST THAN THE LEX DISCUSSING REO SPEEDWAGON

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

JBR = grebt
JR = rub

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

POM POM POM

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

In terms of the actual article, this is the severalth piece I've seen warning me off "gluttony", and it's starting to annoy me a bit, this 'everything in moderation', measured approach to listening. It feels like people not understanding something.

But this is a particularly unformed thought.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

anti-gluttony = "you might end up knowing more than me (and therefore stop reading me), and that would never do" (?)

Ned pointed out on ILM that there is a difference between 'I Must Sample Everything Now Immediately' and 'I am grateful to be able to try lots of things which I will get around to when I can but in my own sweet time thankyou'. (I sort of agree, but for me it's still economics / CD shelf space that moderates how I consume new things more than anything.)

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I don't think its quite that cynical, but there's a grain of truth - I feel a shift in the methods and habits of music consumption is often a harder thing for a lot of pop writers to deal with than, say, a radical new genre or scene coming through.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

& I think - even though I'm not much of a glutton, I actually listen to LESS new music because I only hear a track or two by an act rather than a whole CD by one - I resent the feeling that I'm being lectured to on what's the right or healthy way to take in music.

[(Anonymous)]

Ann Powers invoked the term in her paper, she quipped Anyone who uses the word quipped is worse than a "rockist," he is a journalist. Fed Up Spice P.S. Maybe now that I'm safe off in a comments thread, and not even using a koganbot identity, I'll say that Wolk's "sensible" Seattle Weekly piece was blah-blah-blah boring and blah-blah-blah stupid. If you're going to use a word like "normative" you have a responsibility to then identity what the norm's characteristics actually are, especially when the genre in question makes a point to glorify the defiance of norms. I like Douglas, from what I've read of him, but that piece was poo.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, excuse me Mr. Live Journal, but you are a spacialist as you refused to register my carriage returns.

Fucker.

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