[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists

I've been threatening to do this for a while... This one is for all you young ppl out there - here's what we had to suffer through in order for you to live with your modern shiny pop. Be thankful you ungrateful swine, sit on jauntygrandad's knee and let me tell you of a time when "independent" music (for that was its name) was FOR REALZ and underachievers were exalted above all else, and there was choice of weekly inky newspaper (both largely crap) that you could buy with a fiver and still have change for a Red Wedge concert. A time when the "nobody understands me" crowd were sporting Mozzer quiffs, not slipknoot hoodies. Realactual goths stalked the world, and weren't seen outside of Leeds. THANK GOD THAT's GONE EH! A sad era that ended in the deluge that was the last great Indie-Dance wars of 1989. And it started something a bit like... this:

Ok, so not a real poll cos i am a cheapskate, but: Which of the following songs on Indie Top 20 Volume 1 are Any Good At All?

Mickey Way (The Candy Bar) - A CERTAIN RATIO
Dickie Davies Eyes - HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT
Hang-Ten! - THE SOUP DRAGONS
Sometimes - ERASURE
Please Don't Sandblast My House - ONE THOUSAND VIOLINS
Loan Shark - GUANA BATZ
Oh Grebo I Think I Love You - POP WILL EAT ITSELF
You Should Always Keep In Touch With Your Friends (Peel session) -
THE WEDDING PRESENT
Lover & Confidante - BLUE AEROPLANES
Transmission (Peel session) - JOY DIVISION
Turn The Heater On (Peel session) - NEW ORDER
The Grip Of Love - GHOST DANCE
Velveteen - THE ROSE OF AVALANCHE
Into The Groovy - CICCONE YOUTH
Completely & Utterly - THE CHESTERFIELDS
Sorry To Embarrass You - RAZORCUTS
I Could Be In Heaven - THE FLATMATES
Beatnik Boy - TALULAH GOSH
Throwaway - MIGHTY MIGHTY
The Day Before Tomorrow - BMX BANDITS

(Thanks to http://snow.prohosting.com/ukband/indietop20s.htm ) (I nearly put this on sukrat, but naaaa, indie=pop AS YOU WELL KNOW)

Date: 2006-04-06 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsgomiaow.livejournal.com
CRIKEY I only kno half man half bikkie, erasure, ciccone youth, joy division and they are all GREBT. I also own a blue aeroplanes album...

Date: 2006-04-06 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
the blue aeroplanes are back! Back! BACK! you know.

Date: 2006-04-06 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
And their new album is rub! Rub! RUB!

I say that with a heavy heart.

Date: 2006-04-06 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkpigeon.livejournal.com
and of course pwei, the best grebo band of them all

Date: 2006-04-06 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
mmm, you can smell the proper indie from here...

i think i only know 5 (five) of those songs

also WHERE IS MAN FROM DEL MONTE BAND? i thought they were on every indie top 20...

Date: 2006-04-06 03:26 pm (UTC)

GOTH or BOSH

Date: 2006-04-06 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
transmission is my favourite JD sonng -- i doubt the peel version is an improvement
ciccone youth is ok, SY can do pop when they can be bothered not to do dirge

Date: 2006-04-06 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
YSI? :)

Half Man Half Biscuit and Erasure are the only ones I'd be ticking there, but almost certainly out of ignorance of the rest rather than dislike.

Date: 2006-04-06 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Apart from A Certain Ratio, who are post-punk bollocks.

Date: 2006-04-06 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I feel ILL now :(

I like New Order but the words "Peel session" are harbingers of evil :(

Date: 2006-04-06 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
what the hell ACR song is that? I like ACR usually

barrysarll came up with a TERRIFYING METRIC by which to judge anything: it involved drawing a line between PWEI's last LP and KINGMAKER'S and i have forced myself to forget the rest

Date: 2006-04-06 03:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-04-06 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
hehe, i was thinking that ;)

Date: 2006-04-06 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
It's Shine THREE tomorrow!!

Date: 2006-04-06 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Good Grebo! This is a really desperate compilation, I didn't jump "on board" until vol. 3 or 4 I think, and then only borrowing friends' copies.

Lex you would like Talulah Gosh.

Into The Groovy is basically Sonic Youth doing Culturcide.

GUANA BATZ!!! These names were dusty legend even when I started reading the NME 2 years later.

"Sometimes" must stand out like 1xsore thumb if you actually listen to it.

Actually good record: "Sorry To Embarass You"

Date: 2006-04-06 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
i don't think so. where is [livejournal.com profile] thebopkids, he would know.

i haf been to an football match with gregory from the razorcuts.

Date: 2006-04-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
mais bien sur!

(haha, i bought that creation comp from a charity shop about 9 months ago and haven't listened to it. i think i know like four different people on it, bizarrely...)

Date: 2006-04-06 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
http://community.livejournal.com/indieguilt/327.html?mode=reply

Date: 2006-04-06 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Tom - I'd say I feel sorry for anyone who heard Culturcide, but as I am one of these and don't feel sorry for myself (it was a choice, I thought I knew what I was getting into, I could have chosen not to listen), I will just say that... that I will not say anything.

Nothing To Say Spice

Date: 2006-04-06 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
Razorcuts were on Subway, most of the time, I think. Scandalously the song isn't on the Subway greatest hits record I wrote about a few mumfs ago.

I am of the opinion that "Sowwy to embawass you" is the vewy pawadigm of soppy indie jangle pop - in a good way. I loved it with all my heart when I was a soppy indie teen.

Date: 2006-04-06 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
Again a lack of basic fact-checking by The Nipper. The scandalous omission from the Subway Story is... The Shop Assistants.

Important Historical Qn

Date: 2006-04-06 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
When did Proper Indie end then?

Date: 2006-04-06 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] juliet
Talulah Gosh! Yay!

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Date: 2006-04-06 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
i did click on the link to the website and now i haf read what is coming next and next and next...

Re: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Date: 2006-04-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
WELFARE HEROINE!!!!


make it stop, pls...

Re: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Date: 2006-04-06 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
not that i want to spoil the fun but, according to that website, vol 16 and vol 17 were ALPHABETICAL BY TRACK TITLE!!!!

how wacky is that?

also, qn? what was that other indie compilation series what had FISH on the cover and an magazine as part of the packaging?

Re: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Date: 2006-04-06 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
have you go tthe one with the piano verison ofmy insatiable one on? i don't think i ever heard it...

Re: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Date: 2006-04-06 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
It's on the best of, which I've got.

Date: 2006-04-06 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jel-bugle.livejournal.com
I don't know any of these songs!

Date: 2006-04-06 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
Dickie Davies Eyes - HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT
You Should Always Keep In Touch With Your Friends (Peel session) -
THE WEDDING PRESENT
Transmission (Peel session) - JOY DIVISION
Into The Groovy - CICCONE YOUTH
I Could Be In Heaven - THE FLATMATES

I liked all of those. In the last case it may be just that I knew them a bit and they were nice people, but it's quite good. I haven't listened to Half Man Half Biscuit in years, and I suspect I may not wish to stand by that one.

Date: 2006-04-06 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrenriqueponce.livejournal.com
The new Annie single sounds like Talulah Gosh. The revival starts here.

Date: 2006-04-07 08:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i knew this would be a lex post.

the actual enrique

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