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Group F Initial Results

Brazil ran out worthy winners over Australia last night in their Group F opener, but the Poperoos had their share of chances and goals in a thrilling encounter. Brazil played dazzling football and never looked like losing, but thanks to some excellent team play in the Australian midfield, they never truly dominated. Both camps seemed optimistic last night - pundits are already comparing [livejournal.com profile] thenipper's side with PWC 1970's Tropicalia heroes, and every neutral must be looking forward to their clash with Japan. As for the Australians, they refused to be downhearted in defeat. "If we play like that against Croatia and Japan, we'll qualify", said a source close to the team.

In the other group F game, two late goals gave Japan victory over a dogged and well-drilled Croatia side. The win was a fair reflection of Japan's greater skill and attacking play, though for most of the match they couldn't find a way through a maze of Croatian bodies. Commentators have wondered if the weight of expectations is affecting Japan's play, though with an ultimately comfortable win under their belt the team and management will have no such complaints.

(Vote here to affect the course of Group F.)

Date: 2006-02-23 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
hehe, poperoos :)

Olé!

Date: 2006-02-23 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
Image

CSS would like to thank all their loyal fans for their support so far, but they're keeping their feet on the ground, because, as they are fully aware, the Pop World Cup is a marathon, not a sprint, and there's still everything to play for.

Re: Olé!

Date: 2006-02-23 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
TEH CUTE

I think Japan can beat Oz.

Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

GERMANY - 189 points (Qualify as winners)
ECUADOR - 167 points (Qualify)
Trinidad and Tobago - 156 points (QUALIFY AS WINNERS)
Poland - 144 points
GHANA - 142 points (Qualify as winners)
CZECH REPUBLIC - 134 points (Qualify)
IVORY COAST - 132 points (Qualify as Group winners)
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO - 130 points (Qualify as runners-up)
HOLLAND - 128 points
England - 127 points (QUALIFY)
USA - 126 points
IRAN - 124 points (Qualify as winners)
PORTUGAL - 119 points (Qualify)
Sweden - 119 points
MEXICO - 112 points
ARGENTINA - 110 points
Paraguay - 100 points
Costa Rica - 100 points
ANGOLA - 104 points
ITALY - 98 points


Fascinating to see that Poland failed to progress with such a high points total. The Dutch may also take some solace here as the failure in a tough group came despite clearly winning many fans with their direct attacking play. Iran may breathe a sigh of relief when nobody's looking as their total would not have been enough to proceed in other groups, and the Swedes may gaze at Portugal with bitter envy. Above, or rather below, all, the Italians will be aghast with the shame of receiving the lowest points total so far. But it's not over yet...

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
This is a bit like the FIFA World Rankings i.e. 'what are THEY doing that high up?!'

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
Of course, but I don't have that data myself. Please supply ;)

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
Oh yes you do! For each group, add the points up and divide by twenty.

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
well no because it wasn't 20 people voting in each group, as Tom points out. And the scores from each person would be different anyway.

What we need per group: List of people who voted and the scores they gave. Then work out the percentage each team attracted e.g. Germany got 74& of the vote, or something.

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Anatole's answering the question "how many people voted?".

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
well no because it wasn't 20 people voting in each group

Of course not, the whole point is finding this number! And since each voter gives out 20 points for each group, the group total divided by 20 yields number of voters (in case of no clerical errors, obv).

If I'm not completely mistaken, these are the average-points per voter results:

GERMANY - 6.3 Q1
Trinidad and Tobago - 6.215139442 Q1
GHANA - 5.68 Q1
ECUADOR - 5.566666667 Q2
IRAN - 5.403050109 Q1
CZECH REPUBLIC - 5.36 Q2
IVORY COAST - 5.28 Q1
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO - 5.2 Q2
PORTUGAL - 5.185185185 Q2
HOLLAND - 5.12
England - 5.059760956 Q2
USA - 5.04
MEXICO - 4.880174292
Poland - 4.8
Sweden - 4.741035857
ANGOLA - 4.531590414
ARGENTINA - 4.4
Paraguay - 3.984063745
ITALY - 3.92
Costa Rica - 3.333333333

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
gotcha! sorry for the mix-up there.

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
The USA are the only team so far that I have awarded a full 10 to!

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
We are like those tennis players who will either win a point by smacking an outrageous winner, or lose it by hitting simple shots out of the stadium :(

Re: Poptimism World Cup Overall Table

Date: 2006-02-23 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
I was surprised to see Germany on top, but I have by now completely forgotten what their song is like. I just re-checked my own ballot paper though and I see I gave it high marks. I must listen to it again and see how it compares to some of the Group F contenders.

Still baffled by Argentina's poor results. Other than that, my views = broadly in line with the hivemind so far.

OVERALL TABLE UNDERALL BABEL

Date: 2006-02-23 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
once again steve so-called m uses the bitter magic of FALSE EXTRAPOLATION to determine the result of MATCHES THAT HAVE ONLY HAPPENED IN HIS HEAD: unlike baffling league darlings germany and ecuador our team merely declined to waste effort in unnecessary behind-the-scenes SHMOOZINGS with the drug-addled popindrills of the style media et bleedin al

with all of love TINY IRAN xx

Re: OVERALL TABLE UNDERALL BABEL

Date: 2006-02-23 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
My statulator never lies. Even if not all of the data is present.

Date: 2006-02-23 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
Maybe at the end of the first round we can have a CHART showing the scores people gave for each track. Tom you should know by now that if you find you are unable to produce such a chart due to time constraints or lack of an arse, I would be more than happy to pour over the required data to complete this essential task.

Date: 2006-02-23 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
This is surely the GOLDEN BOOT!

Date: 2006-02-23 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebopkids.livejournal.com
The marvellous Brazilian entry reminds me as much of the so-called "Tom Tom Club" team of the 1982 finals as it does of their illustrious predecessors 12 years before.

I am surprised the Japanese team is apparently not seeing the results I expected. It's a side which seems to me strong in all departments, full of running and energy, with the potential for lots of goals.

Date: 2006-02-23 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
There was UNREST in the Spanish camp last night as their manager has been seen FRATERNISING with some of the Brazilian team, declaring them "hot favourites" whilst dancing around the Brazilian training pitch with her "hands in the air like she just didn't care". Some of the Spanish players are starting to question their gaffer's team loyalty, especially as Brazilians don't even speak Spanish. But in a later interview [livejournal.com profile] katstevens remained firm: "I feel confident that my newly-signed secret striker has the moves and the grooves to outclass the rest of the group. There's no question about it - we'll be sailing through to the next round."

Date: 2006-02-23 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
when is spain's group? iou 2xtrax but have no slsk or equiv :(

(haha i did google "spanish prog" at one point but came up with nothing even sükråt wd host...

Date: 2006-02-23 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
A fortnight. Although my squad for our first round matches has been well and truly selected so no rush.

Date: 2006-02-23 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Rush are Canadian anyway, kat

*runs away*

I JUDGE THAT...

Date: 2006-02-23 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
the chances of rush featurin on sükråt = v.high indeed!!

Date: 2006-02-23 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
the love for Cansei de Ser Sexy continues to show the PWC wuv for the indie

MATCH SUMMARY

Date: 2006-02-24 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
Australia: sustained attempt at minimalist shut-down ultimately wears down the team trying it rather than the opponents

Brazil: where Mexico failed by adopting a model they couldn't live up to (which i keep forgetting to look up the name of), Brazil improvise round not just A but THE classic in the field: by a deft reversal substitution the once-startling-now-shticky theme of the THE NORMAL'S "WARM LEATHERETTE" strategy is supplanted not by its present-day equivalent but by a mere generic descendent, a tactic as brilliant it's sardonic

Croatia:Uncomplicatedly superior play, as comfortable wth the effewctivenes of traditional virtues as with the directness of the more popular euro styles of the last ten years

Japan: those j-rap foopball connoisseurs able to remember the great MELON line-up will be disappointed i think: where their forebears made a signal virtue of they ways they COULDN'T merely mimic, this present showing suggests too great a commitment to precision imitation, a distinct fear of cultural collision and flair arising

Date: 2006-02-26 07:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The marvellous Brazilian entry reminds me as much of the so-called "Tom Tom Club" team of the 1982 finals as it does of their illustrious predecessors 12 years before.

I agree. Too bad I dislike "Genius of Love." In a further divergence from the hivemind, I think this is the worst group, at least since the previous one.

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