[identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
...as Robyn covers "Buffalo Stance". Link courtesy of Nu-Popjustice: new look, new (old?) address, and a bugger to load -- on my machine at least. Robyn/BuffaloStance/Nu-PJ: Three times the poptimax thrill power!

Date: 2006-01-23 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
I'm kind of sympathetic to the Lex's position tho, one of the big trends in yer 'pro-pop' massive seems to be towards this sort of bloodless cutesiness (cf Bertine Zetletz who makes Robin look like Sheffield Dave), it's all insufficiently boshin' if you ask me.

Date: 2006-01-23 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
The other big trend being "plasticky guitars" which I'm more 'down with'.

Date: 2006-01-23 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
The two things that irk me about Lex's (Robyn-specific and general) position are: i) the purism - the idea that there is such a thing as "proper pop" and it must be kept CLEAN of indie; ii) the idea that their is a fillable quota for a certain type of artist, or a time window that can expire...

Date: 2006-01-23 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
i) the purism isn't re the pop, it's re the indie - EVERYTHING must be kept clean of indie (unless you are a genius like JLC who can make The Killers good).

ii) well I stand by this one! It's a perfectly natural and valid way of responding to music - another new artist in the genre du jour can have a definite over-saturation effect. Of course anyone can sidestep the ennui by being super-amazing and great. Robyn, well, she isn't.

Date: 2006-01-23 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
The problem there Lex is that the definition of 'indie' wide enough to include Robyn also includes a KILOTON of rotten ladypop you like.

Date: 2006-01-23 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I can kind of take indie when it admits it is indie and takes advantage of its non-popness to push the boat out v far - really the music I can't stand isn't blanket indie but the vast wilderness between indie and pop.

Date: 2006-01-23 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
when bertine pops up on my i-tunes party shuffle randomizer, it makes a nice 'free-lunch' style change -- possibly mainly bcz i have NOTHING ELSE LIKE HER on my book

Date: 2006-01-23 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Yes it's the bloodlessness which riles me most (cutesiness SHOULD be a plus point but a lot of the people in this New Trend somehow fail at it). I really like two Bertine Zetlitz songs - 'Fake Your Beauty' and 'For Fun' - but the others are all a bit meh.

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