[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
In the canteen just now the Miley song was on (and the Miley song was on, and the Miley song was oooooon etc), and it got me thinking...

...Do pop songs intentionally name drop other artists anymore? Did this use to be more of a common occurrence? Obviously this is a big thing in hiphop where shout-outs to your mates (especially dead ones) or ruthless disses are very common. Also, tediously-long lists of dudes who have influenced the artist seem to be mostly confined to dance music (Daft Punk, LCD Soundsystem, Soulwax, er Scooter), though feel free to correct me on that. Does the same thing happen in country or rock at all?

Off the top of my head I can think of the following pop tracks that reference other artists not directly involved in the making of the track:

Miley Cyrus - Party In The USA (Jay-Z and Britney)
Robbie Williams - She's Madonna
Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag (Iron Maiden)
CSS - Meeting Paris Hilton (who is technically a pop star I guess)

There must be more! Who would you say is name-dropped the most? Does it tend to be in the context of Artist 1 actually in the act of listening to Artist 2, like Miley is doing? Or swooning over them, like Robbie?

Date: 2009-11-19 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Kenny Chesney directly naming three classic rock songs (though not naming the artists) in "I Go Back":

"Jack and Diane" painted a picture of my life and my dreams,
Suddenly this crazy world made more sense to me
Well I heard it today and I couldn't help but sing along
Cause everytime I hear that song...

I go back to a two toned short bed Chevy
Drivin my first love out to the levvy
Livin life with no sense of time
And I go back to the feel of a fifty yard line
A blanket, a girl, some raspberry wine
Wishin time would stop right in its tracks
Everytime I hear that song, I go back

I used to rock all night long to "Keep On Rockin Me Baby"
Frat parties, college bars, just tryin to impress the ladies
I heard it today and I couldn't help but sing along
Cause everytime I hear that song....

I go back to the smell of an old gym floor
The taste of salt on the Carolina shore
After graduation and drinkin goodbye to friends
And I go back to watchin summer fade to fall
Growin up too fast and I do recall
Wishin time would stop right in its tracks
Everytime I hear that song, I go back, I go back

We all have a song that somehow stamped our lives
Takes us to another place and time

So I go back to a pew,preacher, and a choir
Singin bout God, brimstone, and fire
And the smell of Sunday chicken after church
And I go back to the loss of a real good friend
And the sixteen summers I shared with him
Now "Only The Good Die Young" stops me in my tracks
Everytime I hear that song


The first verse of which reminded me of John Cougar Mellencamp's namedrops in "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.":

Voices from nowhere
And voices from the larger towns
Filled our head full of dreams
Turned the world upside down
There was Frankie Lyman-Bobby Fuller-Mitch Ryder
(They were Rockin')
Jackie Wilson-Shangra-las-Young Rascals
(They were Rockin')
Spotlight on Martha Reeves
Let's don't forget James Brown


And I just noticed this in Tom Petty's "Running Down A Dream" a couple days ago:

It was a beautiful day, the sun beat down
I had the radio on, I was driving
Trees flew by, me and Del were singing
Little Runaway I was flying


Del of course being Del Shannon.

Which reminds me of Golden Earring's "Radar Love":

The radio's playing some forgotten song
Brenda Lee's coming on strong
The road's got me hypnotized
And I'm speeding into a new sunrise


Which reminds me of Led Zeppelin saying it's been a long time since "Book of Love" and doing the stroll in "Rock and Roll." Honestly, there are thousands of these...it's not remotely rare, and probably never was.

Date: 2009-11-19 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
So most of these songs are using music that happens to be playing in the background to set the scene (often for nostalgic purposes.) But the Charlie Daniels and Waylon and David Allan Coe ones are more like a roll-call of who's in their fraternity. And the Melencamp one is a history lesson, teaching his fans important names they might otherwise not know.

Date: 2009-11-19 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Though actually, duh, I just rememberd that, in addition to being a fraternity rollcall (in which David Allan Coe strategically appoints himself the third muskateer to two already hugely respected icons), "Willie, Waylon and Me" is also a history lesson (about the history of country rock, specifically):

I'd heard The Burritos out in California
could fly higher than The Byrds
Roger McQuinn had a 12 string guitar.
It was like nothing I'd ever heard
And The Eagles flew in from the west coast
Like The Byrds they were trying to be free
While in Texas the talk turned to Outlaws
Like Willie and Waylon and me.

They say The Beatles were just the beginning
of everything music could be
Just like The Stones I was rolling a lone
Like a ship lost out on the sea
And Joplin would die for the future
And Dylan would write poetry
And in Texas the talk turned to Outlaws
Like Willie and Waylon and me



Also worth mentioning (and this is as good a place as any, I guess) that the very first instance of electronica-shoutout was almost definitely in "Trans Europe Express" by Kraftwerk, from 1977:

From station to station
back to Dusseldorf City
Meet Iggy Pop and David Bowie

Date: 2009-11-30 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gingermint.livejournal.com
the hold steady's "certain songs" is about, specifically, "only the good die young" (also) and "paradise by the dashboard light."

http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858513197/

speaking of the hold steady, they have a song ("joke about jamaica") which uses many led zeppelin titles in the lyrics:

http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858725388/

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