I'm hoping you'll understand

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

La Roux's at it again!

That must mean it's time for.....

[Poll #1462327]

Reminder: You have until 1pm to vote in heat #3 of 2002!

Comments

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

You forgot:

- "[R&B is] very kind of empty, like hollow and not rooted in anything good or healthy. Lyrically it's just like really really bad - I think a lot of it just doesn't mean anything. I think a lot of it is, 'Baby I love you, I want to kiss you'. It's just like what are you on about? Shut up."

- "Men write about women in a far more interesting way, and I try and take things from that. Women always cuss men in song; men write in a way that's more fragile, urgent and desperate."

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Ta - I knew I was missing some :)

[sbp.livejournal.com]

I'd vote for "R&B is very kind of empty".

[cis.livejournal.com]

'fragile, urgent and desperate' is i think my favourite. YES THAT IS RIGHT MEN HAVE COMPLICATED ARTISTICAL FEELINGS, WOMEN ARE JUST BITCHES.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The sex eyes one wins bcz it is simultaneuously the most appallingly wrong and the most wtf ("sex eyes"???)

[mrs-leroy-brown.livejournal.com]

No fucking way. NO FUCKING WAY!! She really said these things for real with her actual mouth?

[ms-bracken.livejournal.com]

Wow, her collected works really reveal how down on butch women she is.

[ms-bracken.livejournal.com]

Also I have a sudden inexplicable urge to BUILD A SHED in which I can PLAY MY DRUMS.

[lisa-go-blind.livejournal.com]

A bit of self-hate, methinks.

[ruudboy.livejournal.com]

Two things from this interview:

- The Inbetweeners impersonating Goodfellas bit sounds excruciating.

- Her mum's June Ackland? (nb - not "Bill actress June Ackland" Guardian idiot.)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

bill GODDESS june ackland!!

this is handy as it provides an "amis and son" style snark: viz yr not a bit talented like yr parent*

cf also the actual non-annoying drake sibling

milf shaker

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

cf also deep-fried potato crispian mills

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

" (on whether she is bisexual) "Not necessarily in practice. In theory. I wouldn't say even if I had."

So she's saying she's a bisexual who's never had a homosexual experience? Rejoice, grown-up indie kids of a certain age!

[bengraham.livejournal.com]

Wow, I had no idea she was such a complete pillock.

She did put on a very good gig at the Scala a few weeks back, mind.

[cis.livejournal.com]

as i think alexmacpherson said elsewhere, it is intensely aggravating that all of this nonsense is couched in a sort of "people can't deal with the fact that i speak my mind" attitude-- there is not something inherently worthwhile about speaking out, and especially when you can't tell the difference between unconsidered prejudice and opinion.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

It's a kind of big-brother-contestant mentality.

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

it's kind of an ALL YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY mentality as far as i can tell ;)

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Ooh I nearly forgot:

"An outfit can make you feel more confident" (hilarious GMTV interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6-SFqYlkeI&feature=player_embedded))

Her haircut is dysmorphic, her pronouncements they are orphic - la roux! la roux!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

She needs her own comic strip too.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I'm glad I've been ignoring her all this time if this garbage is typical. THE LEX WUZ RIGHT!

[strange-powers.livejournal.com]

I might argue that it's her job to say ridiculous things. Not only is she 21, enough of a reason to be an idiot on it's own, she's also a pop star who needs to get people interested.

She's also smart enough to understand that it doesn't really matter:

Aware that her outspokenness is proving increasingly polarising, Jackson draws a distinction between the artist and their art. "I'm still going to listen to Gary Glitter's records even though he's a kiddie-fiddler," she says. "Don't let his problems ruin your life. You're not buying their personality, you're buying their music. Of course it's never nice when you're into an artist and you discover they're horrible, and, yes, it would be disappointing if I suddenly found out that Annie Lennox was racist. But you'd still love the music. It wouldn't matter what I heard about Michael Jackson or Prince – you can't just stop liking a song."

Her being a silly cow won't stop me from liking In For The Kill.

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

21= old enough to know better, dude. I'm only 22.5!

[strange-powers.livejournal.com]

It's not mandatory idiocy, of course! But I don't think it's reasonable (or correct: pop stars should always try and upset a few people) to expect anyone her age, in her line of work, with her background to make sensible proclamations in the papers.

Poptimists, fo example, have spent more time thinking about La Roux today because of the nincompoopery she spouts then they have since In For The Kill hit. Thus, she wins and we shake our heads.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

"ignoring everyone in the public eye who says silly shit, or even dangerously ignorant and objectionable shit" is hardly a worthwhile strategy though.

[strange-powers.livejournal.com]

No, absolutely not. But once you've read something it's safer to make that judgement. Elly Jackson isn't being seditious or dangerous (though I bet she'd like to think she is) - she's just being a big-mouthed pop star, which is her job. Consume and dispose.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Aargh I hate that "pop stars should be big mouthed" argument - see what Cis said above. A pop star's job is to make great pop. And she fails on that count too.

[edgeofwhatever.livejournal.com]

Well, I would argue that making statements like "getting beaten by your boyfriend is your own fault" and "lesbians are always butch and angry" and "chicks look stupid when they do butch things" is quite dangerous, especially when you're presenting yourself as some sort of intellectual, open-minded alternative that kids should look up to and admire as someone who makes them feel good about being themselves.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

As a pop music lover I am relishing this whole kerfuffle. As a feminist I am holding my head in my hands and weeping.

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

I am a bit like 'whatever, idiot' @ her herself but (and maybe one day I will rewrite my snowball of rage thing) I get fucking FURIOUS at her not being called out on it; she says it herself in the interview, that the media don't argue anymore and indeed no they do not.

I can't be arsed to attempt to list how wrong she is on my phone but the thing is, she is only 21 which ok, yes, I don't view as an excuse because that's the same age as me practically and some popstars, eg: Dougie from the McFly say ridiculous things and I find it endearing and sort of relatable but she's one of the cockmeisters I used to know at university who just DID NOT EVER LISTEN TO WHAT THEY JUST SAID. ARGH.

As I said elsewhere, I'd like Lady Stush to interview her.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I like to think this post is helping towards the process of calling her on it.

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, sorry, shld have said 'media excluding present company obvs'.

When I get to werk ("day off" har har har etc but I need Excel & a company email grr) I may write at greater length.

[cis.livejournal.com]

"I get fucking FURIOUS at her not being called out on it"

this.

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

Has there ever been a pop star so loathsomely stupid and hateful who nonetheless gets quite a bit of respectful attention?

[poptasticuk.livejournal.com]

Joss Stone! And after a year of being popular yet idiotic, everybody cottoned on and now she's so disliked she's had to move to America, where people will at least pretend to be nice to her. So hopefully La Roux will have the same destiny. I think so - people will be wondering what they ever saw in her in a year's time.

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

Never knowingly heard a La Roux track (not for any reason, I knowingly don't hear many things) but as I type while listening to a really crappy documentary on the Doors I am trying to imagine the above discussion if she had made (some) good music.

[mostlyconnect.livejournal.com]

"My album is quite gakky – not because of anything being consumed but from a love of that sound."

Don't actually see what's anything other than likable and honest about this one!

[friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com]

"George Michael wrote Careless Whisper when he was 17," she says. "I didn't see Tinchy Stryder writing a song like that when he was 17, but he still gets the same praise."

Also, serious lack of business sense. Signing up to big music tie-in deal with Orange, then slagging off one of your fellow Orange artists, seems both daft and impolite.

I'm still going for the girls & guitars one - can't beat a classic!

And yes, as strange_powers said, she's right about the business of separating artist from music (very community-suitable, I'd have said), but, stopped clock and all that.

[keaneytong.livejournal.com]

Perversely, it is the things she says about her sexuality that baffle me the most; everything else reads as the comments of a bullied girl, and I don't really care about any of that because the things I say about my former childhood enemies make La Roux's meanest, bitchiest things sound like child's play. On the other hand, she could give up playing coy about her sexuality (or lack thereof) as NO ONE CARES. So to her, I would say: STOP PRETENDING THAT THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOU MORE INTERESTING.

The album is still the one I've returned to most this year, though, and I enjoy the crack about making music that sounds cokey (even if I've spent far too much time amongst hipsters who listen to music precisely because they like that it makes them feel like they're on coke).

[agincourtgirl.livejournal.com]

Voted for the girls & guitars one but if the moronic one Lex mentioned about r&b lyrics was up, that would have been my overwhelming choice. Also now wondering if she would bumrush the stage if Taylor Swift was accepting an award...would she have the nerve? HMMM...