[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
I'm not going to bother listing all 500 - here's the link: http://pitchfork.com/p2k/ and here's the Top 20:

20. The Walkmen - The Rat
19. R. Kelly - Ignition (Remix)
18. Hercules and Love Affair - Blind
17. Annie - Heartbeat
16. The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers
15. The Knife - Heartbeats
14. Jay-Z - 99 Problems
13. LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge
12. OutKast - Hey Ya!
11. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
10. Arcade Fire - Neighbourhood #1 (Tunnels)
9. Animal Collective - My Girls
8. Radiohead - Idioteque
7. Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On
6. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps
5. Daft Punk - One More Time
4. Beyonce ft Jay-Z - Crazy in Love
3. M.I.A. ft Bun B and Rich Boy - Paper Planes (Diplo Remix)
2. LCD Soundsystem - All My Friends
1. OutKast - B.O.B

(I voted in this and did a few blurbs, by the way. The top 200 have blurbs and IMHO they are an excellent way of whiling a few hours away)

Date: 2009-08-21 09:36 pm (UTC)
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I think that what I'm getting at in my dissent downthread is that you've made the threshold too accessible/placed the bar too low for what I think the word "canon" means. Canon is not "tops a poll" or even "tops a lot of polls," but more like, "tops the poll and we don't foresee that it will be dislodged among people like us or successor 'people like us.'" Of course, such canonization is often shortsighted, and even in its time it doesn't require unanimity - I knew rock fans c. 1970 who thought that the Beatles were hopeless wimps, others who thought the Stones were overrated and insufficiently imaginative, and many many many others who thought Dylan was too intellectual to be real. Still, at the time it was hard to imagine how they would be taken down. Whereas it's easy to see "99 Problems" never actually planting itself in a pantheon given that it pretty much only outranks "Big Pimpin'" among voters who don't pay deep attention to Jay-Z. And I can easily imagine Jay-Z and Timbaland not retaining enough cultural presence to hold on, and "Get Ur Freak On" getting lost, or anyway just being another song among songs, though that wouldn't be my judgment.

There was a Timberlake/T.I. track that placed second in Jackin' Pop a couple of years ago. I've forgotten its name, though I could find out in a second and it placed top 50 on the Pitchfork list, but does its future seem assured, its cultural weight a given, a listenership in line for it for the next ten years?

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