an amorous party at a farm

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Courtesy of freakytigger and indeed FreakyTrigger, apparently we have all resolved our generational difficulties and become one big happy Radio Two family since 1966. Blimes.

Arbitrary Woodstock reference WTF

Of course you can't have an innaccurate and limited poll carried out without poptimists getting involved, with our great experience in POLL SCIENCE and superior democratic methods. Err. Anyway, I'm clearly not the best mod for this task but away we go.


[Poll #1443342]

It would be more thorough but I appear to be experiencing mild 'stealing wireless fail' so thought I'd just shove it out here quick.

Comments

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Does it not have radio yet? And yes, it is well odd staring at it thinking 'I COULD LISTEN TO ANYTHING, LITERALLY ANYTHING; BUT WHAT?!' (future ideas for things: the internet as terrible gaping maw of epistemological panic)

I once used it to listen to the Trina back catalogue. I dunno, I may be coming at this from a sideways angle because a lot of my formative music friends were metallers and for some reason completism is VERY IMPORTANT to Iron Maiden fans, so I sort of assume The Kidz are doing that? Only with Mp3s not, like, tapes or whatever.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[cis.livejournal.com]

It might have a radio? these radios tend to be based on those genre defs that aren't v useful for navigating actual personal taste, it's all "oh you listen to [shonky indie band] so you'll like [shonky indie band]" but it turns out that despite both being shonky and indie I only like one of them. The mysteries of palate!

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I do what I used to do on slsk in the same situation - shove in any old word and see what you get.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I rarely use Spotify at all (bloody adverts do my head in) but checking out the back catalogues of artists I've been meaning to get into strikes me as the most likely thing that I'd do - esp those where I don't trust any sort of critical consensus (Whitney, Mariah).

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[koganbot]

Yeah, don't trust the crits, but trust this (1992):

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I love 'Can't Let Go'. W/Mariah I'm in the weird position of knowing pretty much all her singles, except the ones no one remembers, but no albums pre-Mimi. (I've now acquired all of them though! And will no doubt make my way through soon.)

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[koganbot]

This isn't the single version, though. It's better than the single version!

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

It's pretty amazing. How the hell did she EVER get a negative critical rep.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[koganbot]

This is speculation on my part. I recall her being as hated as Celine; it was automatic, the idea that it was OBVIOUS that she was bad, a technical showoff and the face of the corporation, with no connection to the truth of music. I'm quite proud that I liked her right away, but even I complained about her sometimes failing to connect emotionally - which is amazing to me in retrospect, that I didn't identify the consistent feeling within her sparkle and flash. And for most critics she was coming from another world: the soul they were most attuned to was the soul of hesitations and slurs, a soul of pain; or a soul of high-pitched sweetness and sorrow. Critics may have had fond memories of daredevil virtuosos like Clyde McPhatter, but someone like Mariah, in contrast, was not only an entertainment hussy and showoff, she made it all seem easy and risk free. Her sweat was left behind in the practice room; onstage and on record her sound just flew on its wings. Listening to her wasn't a challenge. She bestowed no edge or hipness on her listeners. Here were her leaps and whirls, and either you were with them or you weren't.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[cis.livejournal.com]

Yeah about the only thing I consistently use it for is r'n'b and hiphop back catalogues.

Surely, surely the kidz are mp3-completists! We used to copy and pass round infinite c90s copied off shonky camden town bootleg cds of bands' b-sides or sometimes even live sets: I refuse to believe this practice does not continue. Just now it costs even less.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

The reason I need to go and listen to whole albums by artists I want to get into isn't necessarily that I'm a completist, it's that I don't trust anyone to do the filtering for me! I need to listen to it all to figure out what I want to discard/keep.

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

I think they are- there are a lot of B-Sides etc. on the various upload comms I get my young persons's emo from monitor for research purposes. I mean, if they're not then they're clearly failing. I think when I stopped caring if I knew a band's back catalogue in order to like them (or rather, not ALL of it, obviously having heard their music would be a bonus...) was probably a significant moment in feeling vaguely self-assured about my tastes.

Tapes were GREBT. They will be the sticking point re: "back in my day" shurely; "you had to listen to it whilst you recorded it and it took NINETY MINUTES and WE WERE GRATEFUL."

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[cis.livejournal.com]

tape-to-date dubbing at dubspeed = 45 minutes!

ah, making compilation tapes, finding tracks that were thirty seconds long to go on the end, isn't it, wasn't it.

I think for me it was when I stopped caring if I liked a band's back catalogue? There's a very definite point in my life where I suddenly realised that I could say not "everything released after this date is a bit lame" but "everything before this date is a bit lame", ie fvck the early funny stuff. But yeah feeling strong enough w/ your tastes that you can say "oh yeah i like them" without needing to have heard everything else in case someone comes along and catches you out is a really good moment.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

alll music sounds grebt at dubspeed

i remember once listnin to weber's clarinet concerto on LP w.my mum, and she was all "at school i performed this! i must have been tremendously talented!" and then we looked and it was on at 45

[cis.livejournal.com]

Only downside to dubspeed: I was extremely confused when I first encountered the genre of music known as "dub".

Re: there was a dog! he had two bones!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

The entire culture of leaked demos! You can be a completist about songs which DON'T EVEN EXIST now. Some of the r&b and hip-hop leak blogs have terrifying quantities of stuff posted on them.