an amorous party at a farm

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Courtesy of freakytigger and indeed FreakyTrigger, apparently we have all resolved our generational difficulties and become one big happy Radio Two family since 1966. Blimes.

Arbitrary Woodstock reference WTF

Of course you can't have an innaccurate and limited poll carried out without poptimists getting involved, with our great experience in POLL SCIENCE and superior democratic methods. Err. Anyway, I'm clearly not the best mod for this task but away we go.


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It would be more thorough but I appear to be experiencing mild 'stealing wireless fail' so thought I'd just shove it out here quick.

Comments

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

This does bring up something I think is an interesting'n'relevant thing since iPods etc. meant you can carry around half your music collection all the blvddy time and the ridiculous ease with which you can pirate the back catalogue of, eg: Metallica means that yr modern sixteen-year-old has no trouble getting hold of and listening to music that might have taken awhile to build up before. But then there's probably a thing like that with every new format and also everyone's always had access to, eg: their parents' record collections etc.

Of course the problem of why on EARTH they only chose seven genres to poll people regarding and had 'Spanish Guitar' as one of them is just ...yeah, I wish I'd had more time to make this poll. Also I forgot to mention that my plan was to have a GENRECANON or something where we worked out what seven genres were the most important tomorrow, since err, I'll be at work?

And err. I am writing like three things at the same time as this so I've totally forgotten what my point was. Fail by me there. Oh yes! I was going to put in a 'what's yr occupation' q in the poll to see if there is a difference between students of all ages and working people or whether the retired enjoy more post-hardcore or well. I don't know. In the spirit of the Pew poll I haven't thought this through very well have I?

(incidentally I am not picking on Lex in the poll; as is well-known, neither him nor me knows any music pre-2000 BECAUSE IT IS ALL RUBBISH.)

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

By 'always had access to' and 'their parents' record collections' I mean 'people usually get to hear the same music their parents do' since obviously record collections have only been around ten minutes and I imagine there were always a few old persons at illegal ...waltzing or what-have-you in renaissance Venice or WHATEVER.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

My parents had me in their mid-late 30s, and weren't really "pop" people: they had Sgt Peppers but everyone had Sgt Peppers. Dylan's Greatest Hits (never played), a Doors album (ditto). That was it pretty much. I played Peppers as a kid but otherwise their record collection might as well have been from an alium planet. Not just 'different taste' - no point of connection at all, nothing I could recognise as popular music.

I think that kind of experience was more common in 1966 than in 1986 (when I was 13), and probably more common in 1986 than now. But I don't know for sure.

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

My parents had lots of pop music (although also lots of, at the time mindnumbing classical that they thought would be IMPROVING etc. and which just means I have misplaced affections towards overblown prog probs but anyway) but I don't think that was necessarily par for the course; they had both been massive hippies and were comparatively young (>30) when they had me. They still listened to Radio 1 until I was about eleven, actually but I definitely think I am probably anomalous.

My point was more that there's access to the same music as yr parents, regardless of whether you actually like it. Obviously we are all mad punk rebels here and so probs had to eschew our parents' listening tastes at some point.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i think my parents had good taste in music, though it wasn't a passion for them, and am therefore the PUNKIEST REBEL OF ALL by getting on v.well with em and being fond of everything they liked

(even ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER'S VARIATIONS)

(tho worrell likes that even more than me ircc)

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

Hahahahahahahaha I have yet to accept the WEBBER or the but everything else has by and large gone back into my music taste, even the long-resented 'Floyd, who were a lot worse than poor old Holst. (who I lub and occasionally expound ridic theories re: 'planets suite has the whole of popular music contained in it')

[sbp.livejournal.com]

Listen to Variations, you will be pleasantly surprised.

(If you can find it)

[sbp.livejournal.com]

I wuv Variations the most. It was done for a bet, and has lots of synths and rocks and guitars on it - much better than any of his other stuff.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

It took me a long time to realise that my parents had engagement-as-I-understood-it with popular culture. When I was little I appreciated that they had a Boney M record because it was mental and had a picture disc of them in glittery spandex. Later of course there was rediscovering their surviving vinyl, including a copy of 'Arrival', but it was only when you mentioned 'Luv a few years ago that I thought "oh yeah, we had that, well done poptimist folks"

Part of this disconnection may have been format - my parents only really used the tape player to make compilations for car trips, whereas it was of course what all us kid's first albums were on.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

My parents' taste = light classics, religious music, maybe some fond memories of eg the Beatles or whatever, but not so much that they owned any Beatles music. Not wholly anti-pop culture but definitely disapproving of all but the most wholesome, soundwise and image-wise; prone to confiscating music as punishment when younger. The idea of music obsession was completely alien to them.

Didn't really grow up with any music in the house or any record collections to pillage (a huge reason that I know so little about pre-1990 music) - pretty much everything from 1990-2001 was stuff I randomly stumbled across, thanks to schoolfriends (and even then there were only 2-3 of us into, you know, R&B and trip-hop and female singer-songwriters). Never even read the music press, and being in Somerset there weren't any gigs to go to. So my tastes really developed in a very odd vacuum.

"being in Somerset there weren't any gigs to go to"

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

LEX HEARTS THE WURZELS

Re: "being in Somerset there weren't any gigs to go to"

[piratemoggy.livejournal.com]

to be fair I lived in fvcking READING and there weren't any gigs to go to.

edit: that didn't have The Cooper Temple Clause or King Prawn playing at them, anyway.

[meserach.livejournal.com]

This explains so much :)

[sbp.livejournal.com]

From what I remember, in the early 80s my parents had the red and blue Beatles albums and With The Beatles and Rubber Soul, three Simon & Garfunkel albums, Ringo Starr's Goodnight Vienna, Boney M's Nightflight to Venus, and a bunch of Shadows stuff. And a stack of classical stuff my mum brought to the party. Of this, my 10 year old self got into the Shadows stuff most. Who knows why. I still have a red Fender Strat though....