Thursday, the day of abomination
Apr. 2nd, 2009 09:51 amLet's talk about HATE, poptimists. It'll be therapeutic.
What horrible, terrible, reprehensible musical things have occurred thus far this year? Did The Saturdays covering 'Just Can't Get Enough' make you cry? Do The Lonely Island make you want to beat your own face in? Do you think Lady Gaga just hasn't received enough press coverage? Is The Dream overrated? Did Royksopp, in your opinion, shove out a massive log of POO? Have you heard that new single by The Enemy?
[Poll #1376740]
A post about ORGAFUN coming later, once we've ~expelled the hate.
What horrible, terrible, reprehensible musical things have occurred thus far this year? Did The Saturdays covering 'Just Can't Get Enough' make you cry? Do The Lonely Island make you want to beat your own face in? Do you think Lady Gaga just hasn't received enough press coverage? Is The Dream overrated? Did Royksopp, in your opinion, shove out a massive log of POO? Have you heard that new single by The Enemy?
[Poll #1376740]
A post about ORGAFUN coming later, once we've ~expelled the hate.
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Date: 2009-04-02 09:13 am (UTC)I don't think that really needs words to attempt to explicate its hatefulness.
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Date: 2009-04-02 10:09 am (UTC)I go cry now.
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Date: 2009-04-02 10:11 am (UTC)Not least because as I type this there are indie hipster kids seeing a point to Biggie/Umbrella because "this version really brings out the emotions" or "gives it such a meaningful twist" since a white man in a "trendy scarf" has done that. *facedesk*
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Date: 2009-04-02 01:10 pm (UTC)the case against Taylor Swift
Date: 2009-04-02 09:28 am (UTC)WHY I HATE LOVE STORY-
1. Taylor is a wet and a weed and I cannot empathise or even sympathise or romanticise all this wishy-washy girlish EMOTION
2. Her annoying dress in the video
3. The fact it's got one of those really bad, predictable tunes
4. Annoying cliche Romeo'n'Juliet lyrics
5. Man who looks like Joe Jonas in the video
6. URGH that line about I talked to your daddy, go pick out a white dress AGIKDHKJFSHJSUKKGUHKJSD this fills me with rage not on a gender politics level but just on an 'IS THIS LEVEL OF DELIBERATE QUAINTNESS STRICTLY NECESSARY?' level.
Hate doesn't have to be a consensus, of course. Taylor beat the vastly preferable (IMO) T.I. into a hat in our Chartpoll last week but that doesn't mean I have to sit here and take it, etc.
OK, quickly, before I have to leave
Date: 2009-04-02 09:31 am (UTC)Lady "It's fashion! I'm an artist!" Gaga. Evidence for the prosecution: endless terrible pantslessness, endless terrible refusal to stop talking about her pantslessness as though it's a Warholian art form, endless invocations of Warhol, Madonna, Grace Jones &c as though she's fit to lick their boots, the disparity between that and the mediocre, utterly unexceptional electro that she peddles, each and every one of these quotes (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/02/lady-gaga-inter.html).
La Roux. We have covered her recently, I believe. Even apart from the stupid name/hair/opinions/facial expression, her music is basically unlistenable. People can really enjoy listening to that shrill, charmless harpy voice over the 80s preset button on her keyboard? Really?
Asher Roth. Frat boy stereotype raps about how he loves college. Even worse than that sounds.
3OH!3. Warning: do not watch if you value your peace of mind:
"Shush, girl, shut your lips, do the Helen Keller and talk with your hips." I can't believe that's a lyric. I can't believe he REPEATS IT. TWICE. When I watched this, I physically flinched and backed away from the computer each time. I actually want to commit acts of violence on him.
AND HE'S NOT EVEN THE WORST. This is basically the most repulsive piece of music I have ever heard in my life. It's just totally WRONG in every way. I mean...'singing' the lyrics to Biggie's 'Hypnotize' in an obnoxious, passive-aggressive indie-boy whine, while the 'Umbrella' instrumental plays tinnily in the background from two rooms away. What? HOW IS THIS AN ACCEPTABLE THING TO DO? It's even worse with the video. Look at his face, people. Look at his smug, pasty face bobbing up and down. Look at his clothes. I want to strangle him with that fucking keffiyah.
You know what's the worst thing about the last three, even worse than their existence in the first place? Even worse than the fact that they got signed (can't blame anyone for their desperation to make a buck from the ashes of the music industry)? It's that they appear to HAVE FANS. There are people out there who believe in the artistic merit of 'Hypntz'. And you just know that all of them come with a load of patting-ourselves-on-the-back-for-being-so-clever baggage.
If anything links these people, it's that they all push their personalities loudly and obnoxiously to the forefront of what they do. And they all go out of their way to make some Statement About Art. It's impossible to ignore what total dickheads they are, because it's inextricably bound up in the music - with the exception of Gaga, you can't listen to the music without buying into Black, La Roux etc as "artists" - clever, funny people/personae who are doing something worthwhile on a wider cultural level. Which...does anyone want to defend any of them? Really?
The other thing linking them is, of course, that they're utterly devoid of any actual talent, and stripped of all the ~baggage~ (insofar as that's even possible), their product is just unremarkable. None of them can sing. None of their songs are particularly well-structured or well-crafted. The production is rudimentary. In fact, you NEED their personalities to carry their music - which is precisely what makes them so intolerable.
Re: OK, quickly, before I have to leave
Date: 2009-04-02 10:37 am (UTC)it's the bastard descendent of the original 60s white-kid response to 50s and 60s black music, but that (a) introduced and mixed in stuff that wasn't in the original* and (b) actually was a first populasation and presentation of music that was REALLY HARD TO FIND AND HEAR in 60s white-kid-land
*including elements introduced by people strugglng to learn to master stuff they hadn't grown up with -- fruitful misconcpetions blah blah
but this is (i) no longer remotely a valid excuse and (ii) a product of active refusal to engage with stuff that's readily available, a censorship born of smug laziness
(caveat: i haven't heard hypnotoadz* and as usual lex's rage makes me kinda want to!)
*BETTER NAME ALERT
acksherly
Date: 2009-04-02 11:35 am (UTC)*why hullo "the state of rock", you seem to be no more than 10 million pages of scribbled notes!
Re: acksherly
Date: 2009-04-02 12:17 pm (UTC)Woke up today and all I could say is "Um."
Date: 2009-04-02 03:27 pm (UTC)(If that embed doesn't play in the U.K., here it is on Dailymotion.)
Re: Woke up today and all I could say is "Um."
Date: 2009-04-02 03:40 pm (UTC)Re: Woke up today and all I could say is "Um."
Date: 2009-04-02 03:58 pm (UTC)My being pedantic
Date: 2009-04-02 04:09 pm (UTC)Re: My being pedantic
Date: 2009-04-02 04:18 pm (UTC)Re: My being pedantic
Date: 2009-04-02 04:27 pm (UTC)Re: My being pedantic
Date: 2009-04-03 05:49 pm (UTC)http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/archive/2007/aug/02/the-rules-of-the-game-no-9-the-teens-are-cool-but-
Re: Woke up today and all I could say is "Um."
Date: 2009-04-02 04:52 pm (UTC)Re: OK, quickly, before I have to leave
Date: 2009-04-02 04:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-02 10:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-02 10:15 am (UTC)oh for sure
Date: 2009-04-02 10:20 am (UTC)not nearly as awful as this though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdJ_wsm_4E0&feature=related
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Date: 2009-04-02 10:45 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-04-02 12:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-02 12:29 pm (UTC)1. It is not "rock," it is nu-metal if it's anything
2. URGH VOCODER when has that been a rock instrument
3. Lil Wayne's rap generally rocks at least a little bit; what he's created here is the IDEA of rock which is interesting (especially since it's not just his idea but probably a lot of rock's own idea of itself) without actually managing to harness his own rock.
4. V bad, no tick.
5. Altho I did once listen to it five times in a row and it holds a certain fascination.
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Date: 2009-04-02 02:57 pm (UTC)Landing my spaceship on her roof
Date: 2009-04-02 03:56 pm (UTC)Re: Landing my spaceship on her roof
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