Controv!

Mar. 6th, 2009 01:44 pm
[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
Here are some links that may entertain or aggravate ya!

(If you read my tumblr or Lex's LJ you'll have seen them)

What hath Popism wrought?: critics being nice to albums - WHEN WILL THE MADNESS STOP.

Right Music Wrongs: popism means that the righteous anger of the people against bad music must now be outsourced to corporations like Virgin Mobile Australia.

Simon Reynolds on 'wonky': a losing move in the game of genre jenga, sez Lex (and many others)

Date: 2009-03-06 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
what i like about "rockist boy critics" is, aside from the fact they're often quite fit to look at at the indie disco and in fact my regular snogging partner is one, is that they have this BURNING DESIRE to find something to engage some kind of quasi-marxist STRUGGLE against 'noez those commercialist popists who like music that a lot of the time doesn't sell many records like eg: bassline are OPPRESSIN' MAH OPINIONS' when in fact of course a)whilst there indutibly is "popism," the targets normally charged as such aren't it (i would call the more militant wings of Popjustice-messageboard idiocy "popist" in the sense that "rockist boy critics" like to paint "popism" as existing) since eg: poptimists have no such thing as "consensus" let alone some kind of grand agenda and b) this is all just insane internet paranoia dudes can't we all get along and diss music others enjoy and have a FITE about it because people are WRONG ON THE INTERNET and allow the whole dialectic process to play out as it ought or whatever.

being a hegelian popist i'm just sitting around WORRYING about THIS SORT OF THING. well no actually i am sitting here and taking this all really personally because i am ill but anyway.

as i said elsewhere, r3yn0ld5 makes me furious beyond all belief with his insinuation that he is somehow more down with Young London Urban People than the reader despite the fact he is of course sitting in a posh apartment in New York being old and smug. i have 0 problem with people who are not Young London Urban People writing about perceivedly Young London Urban People's music but i do deeply dislike the insinuation that i couldn't possibly understand it the way simon reynolds can. i mean i realise i'm a Young(ish) Rural-To-London-Immigrant Person and don't even really understand the tube yet but FFS, i do not need some kind of middle aged dude with a book deal to tell me that "YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THIS SORT OF THING YOU KNOW" (apols to middle aged dudes with book deals, i don't think you all do this sort of thing)

Date: 2009-03-06 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com
I love this comment! Thank you.

I struggle with Simon Reynolds, he just makes me so bloody angry lot of the time. I ranted a lot about his slagging of various "noise" genres of music (unspecified, obv, cos he does not know WTF he's on about) in his intro to "Bring The Npise", so I'll keep it short here: he *can* be smart, but he's usually a prick.

Date: 2009-03-06 10:19 pm (UTC)
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I see in my soul, as a man w/ a book, that the kidz are down w/ boring music by Gerrard & Nevil, and great feminine music by Taylor of Swiftness.

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