History is Bunk
Aug. 8th, 2008 10:12 amI have a new Pitchfork column up - if it seems like ages that's because it's been ages! (not their fault or mine - standard skip week plus festival reports pushing things back).
This one is about pop, history, and what a history of pop should or shouldn't include (hint: no actual music).
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/142636-column-poptimist-17
It was born out of listening a lot to the new Girl Talk album, though as is the way of these things Girl Talk then vanished from the piece completely while I was writing it.
This one is about pop, history, and what a history of pop should or shouldn't include (hint: no actual music).
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/142636-column-poptimist-17
It was born out of listening a lot to the new Girl Talk album, though as is the way of these things Girl Talk then vanished from the piece completely while I was writing it.
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Date: 2008-08-08 10:08 am (UTC)As for the album itself, it's a mystery to me: I can't point to a single thing it's doing wrong, I can't think of any obvious distinction between it and the last one, and yet I find it unfun where I thought the last one was a gas. I wonder if his shtick (or to put it less pejoratively, his concept) is something that can only effectively be put into practice once.
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Date: 2008-08-08 10:12 am (UTC)Remind me to elaborate on the GT/history thing later!
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Date: 2008-08-08 11:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-08 12:05 pm (UTC)I LOVE YOU!!
Thank, this is a *great* article - would you mind if I linked to it from my journal?
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Date: 2008-08-08 09:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-08 12:29 pm (UTC)Where are your titles?
Date: 2008-08-08 03:10 pm (UTC)Re: Where are your titles?
Date: 2008-08-08 10:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-08 03:32 pm (UTC)Also, it sure seems to me that, e.g., Real Punks Don't Wear Black and Psychotic Reactions And Carbureter Dung and The Accidental Evolution Of Rock 'N' Roll (to name the first three that come to mind) have lots about listening. And conversely, someone who can't grasp the music isn't likely to grasp its audiences either.
Of course, you're talking about Overview Histories Of The Whole Thing, none of which I've read (unless you count the Jim Miller edited Rolling Stone Illustrated History Of Rock & Roll, first two editions, which actually is pretty damn good, though it's essentially an anthology of artist-based critical essays by a number of different writers).
I still like Robert Warshow's lines from his Introdution to The Immediate Experience:
The sociological critic says to us, in effect: It is not I who goes to see the movies; it is the audience. The aesthetic critic says: It is not the movies I go to see; it is art... A man watches a movie, and the critic must acknowledge that he is that man.
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Date: 2008-08-08 05:39 pm (UTC)So an idea for a future column - or for future
E.g., Nick Tosches' "The Punk Muse" and Lester Bangs' "James Taylor Marked For Death" and Richard Meltzer's intro to Gulcher (1970, 1971, and 1972, respectively) all have lots to say about what was going on Then ('50s and '60s) and what is going on Now (early '70s).
An assumption I've occasionally perceived on
A hypothesis of mine, that a number of people might find surprising, is that, while two technological changes have had a crucial effect on music - these would be the invention of the microphone and the invention of sound "recording" (I've put "recording" in quotation marks because what's happened isn't simply recording sounds that were already present but changing their character) - none of the others have. Well, maybe radio too. So the inventions I'm saying haven't had a crucial effect include LPs, distortion pedals, cassettes, synthesizers, digital samplers, CDs, the Internet, and mp3s. Which is to say that the form and content and how music is used over the last 90 years has been culture driven rather than technology driven. Song length has been ridiculously static (and short), the tension between song and groove has been longstanding (with song form being surprisingly resilient), and the innovations I call "recombinant dub" (a catchall category that includes disco, hip-hop, techno, house, etc.) were already underway in the '50s. And the words that people sing continues to veer towards romance and romanticism (or romance versus romanticism) as does what people use the music for (romance and/or romanticism?) and how they justify it.
Much that I'd say about "technology" I'd say about "cross-marketing" as well; which is that the subject bores me unless the people talking about it talk about the content of what's being cross-marketed and the content of the marketing itself (what stories the marketers are telling the people being marketed to).
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Date: 2008-08-08 06:41 pm (UTC)and "microphone" has to include the whole technics of electronic amplification, not all of which works from translation of sound-pressure waves into electrical impulses (a guitar pick-up is strictly speaking a bit different from a microphone) (which is why you can't usefully sing into it)
with those provisos i think you're right -- digitisation has allowed a reach of vertical and horizontal integration of information that probably does have qualitative effects, but i think they're still all second-order
stockhausen had an interestingly dotty -- and unprovable -- theory about the time-lengths we favour as listeners, (hich i think he called temporal octaves): i should look it up
other books i should possibly finish: my history of music and technology :(
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Date: 2008-08-08 09:51 pm (UTC)I think the distinction I'm making is "what would have been done anyway" (even if not so easily) versus "stuff you hadn't even realized you wanted to do" or the doing of which was generally considered subordinate to more central stuff. I might have to give some thought about what I think it is that falls into the category "stuff you hadn't realized you wanted to do" that microphones and sound recording opened up. Musical equivalents to the close-up in the narrative film, for instance, or the ability to shift scenes.