The world turned upside down

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Yesterday on the sex discussion the Lex said some interesting stuff about how acts like Lil Kim were "important and subversive" for reversing real-world expectations of predatory/dominant men and weak females.

This specific example got a bit of comment but what interested me was the old buzzword "subversive" - do you think that pop can still (if it ever did!) act as a subersive space in which social norms can be reversed or otherwise played with? And if not pop, how about more subcultural musical areas?

Comments

Re: (when's the quote from? 1970?)

[koganbot]

Think of Jagger in relation to If....: for all its gay subtext and text, it didn't come across as camp; at least not to me; Mick Travis/Malcolm McDowell didn't.

I think Lennon is being really defensive calling Mick's dancing a joke. (Of course, "camp" and "joke" aren't necessarily linked.)