[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
I was going to link to the Lex's piece on MINIMAL in the Graun, but the swines seem not to have put it on their website so you'll have to just imagine it. It was a good read anyway. OH OK it's here: http://music.guardian.co.uk/electronic/story/0,,2178449,00.html

So instead maybe we'll have to talk about MADONNA in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Anyone? No? Actually has anybody ever met anybody (even online!) who cares about the R&RHOF?

Maybe we'll just have to talk about her new record, "Candy Shop". It's a bit rub. :( EVEN THAT is not news, it's just a demo apparently. It's still a bit rub tho.

Any other pop news out there activating yr prefrontal cortexes?

LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
http://music.guardian.co.uk/electronic/story/0,,2178449,00.html

don't know why it's not on the music front page, but first result for "minimal" in music search

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
clever wording, cheers.

also do you maybe want to take this post down and just start again? ;)

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
i read most of that piece this morning (on the slowest bus in the world i was)

i have only heard that gabriel ananda track (ihre glucken thing), and it just sort of bimbles along. i'm guessing drugs are the bit i'm missing.

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
IPG so does not just bimble along! It's like...the dance equivalent of a pop song with three choruses, it's so melodic and banging! I may not be best placed to argue this point but I really don't think you need drugs to get it either.

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
hmm. its nice enough, so i get the melodic thing, but def not feeling any bangingness. i'm having problems imagining dancing to something so unenergetic. obv this is a failure of my imagination :-(

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I can't hear how it could be unenergetic - I mean I CAN with some mnml tracks, but really not with this! The 4/4 beat is more pounding than usual in mnml, it's a really physical track - the moment where the acid bass comes in for the last time is just a total FISTS POUNDING AIR moment. Maybe this can be demonstrated at Kat's tomorrow...

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Two kids dancing around the room to it - http://youtube.com/watch?v=7SnubPrh8ZQ

I am 99% sure that it is the SAME Hungarian folk song that Tori Amos covered as a b-side in 1996.

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
also Tom I hope you saw my bigging up 'Early Winter' in the f&m playlist!

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoshuteki.livejournal.com
No mention of La Monte Young at all. What on earth do ppl mean by minimal these days anyway ect ect?

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com
Now, "minimal" is an umbrella term covering a massive swathe of house and techno - much to the annoyance of dance connoisseur"

Or rather:

Now "minimal" is an umbrella term

once you've removed the superfluous comma.

Re: LEX PIECE HERE

Date: 2007-09-28 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
Beside the fact that its only a term anyways there is, in classical music, a difference between minimal and minimalist -- mainly to do with straightforwardly repetitive motifs in the latter and material that sounds very pared down in the former, more of a complexity within simplicity.

La Monte kinda of is neither and both; I think he has such a strong relationship with partic strands in Indian classical music that its difficult to say.

All of this is, again, something else to what is being talked about here...would have to listen to more of dance-minimal.

And funnily enough there is a strand in classical, which is basically incredibly pared down -- very few notes, plenty of silences -- so as to exist on the edges of existence that has come about in the last 15 years or so, being around the time when Basic Channel started (?). I'd have to do a bit of homework to date all of this.

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