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From the mouth of [livejournal.com profile] inhibitorylinks comes...JUDGEMENT.

"First of all, as a long-time lurker at poptimists, I just wanted to say a big thank you to all for letting me be a part of this very fun event. Thanks also for my tracks, which I burned onto a CD and listened to as I sojourned around Sydney for work yesterday - it's not often I can do that and feel content at the same time.

For what it's worth it was VERY hard to separate most of these tracks into "winners" and "losers" - aren't we all winners in the end, after all?

01. High5 - "Dooset Daram": I'm always up for a bit of foreign language madness, and the "tik-tikka-tik" snare in the background throughout was a pleasure for reasons I can't really explain, though it begins to wear a little thin by the three minute mark. The singer sounds a little tired as well, though he could just be pacing himself. 9TH PLACE - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee's title dreams shattered by cruel defeat.

02. Jon Brion - "Monday": At the risk of sounding like an old man, "charming" is the first word that sprang to mind when I heard this. I also had visions of friendly monsters doing the Viennese waltz on a frozen lake. I don't know why that is. Reminds me of the best bits of the "About A Boy" soundtrack. One of the few instances where I don't feel that a vocal would improve proceedings, and my only real complaint is that it doesn't go on for long enough. 1ST PLACE - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] fugitivemotel arrests his slump in dazzling style.

03. The Timelords - "Doctorin' The TARDIS": This IS "Doctorin' the Tardis" by The KLF, isn't it? For some reason I'm not entirely sure, and am nervous about my obvious lack of knowledge of the classics. It's certainly glamtastic, and finally katstevens' "yer what" icon makes sense to me, as does the word BOSH. Definitely an important poptimists artefact. 6TH PLACE - DRAW, though I'd award it a win if I could. - [livejournal.com profile] braisedbywolves snatches a point but will it be enough to stave off relegation?

04. Luigi Nono - "...Solo Dolce Tacere": I've never really been fond of that Ligeti choral piece I submitted several weeks ago for hauntedballroom; it always seemed too much like the sort of music that would be the soundtrack to my most distressing and Dali-esque nightmares. This piece is, for whatever reason, significantly less distressing, but I just can't shake my Pavlovian reflex to shudder slightly and say "creepy!" 10TH PLACE - LOSE - tactical misfire could cost [livejournal.com profile] xyzzzz_ dear.

05. Oi Va Voi - "Seven Brothers": The trumpets and cymbal rolls at the beginning promise drama, and it indeed delivers, although it's a drama that boils and seethes just beneath the surface, rather than drama with bombast and lightning flashes. I particularly like how the bass line doesn't conform to any standard sort of rhythm, which means that you can never settle into any particular groove. This is "7 Brothers" by Oi Va Voi. 2ND PLACE - DRAW - crucial point keeps [livejournal.com profile] katstevens' head above water.

06. Grosvenor - "Private Domain": I'm a sucker for a string section, and also harpsichords. This song offers both! It reminds me of The 6ths, or at least something that Stephin Merritt has had his finger in; there's a wonderful baroque fussiness to it that, admittedly, would probably become a little grating over an entire album, but in isolation it's dramatic, uplifiting and I find more to hear in it with every listen. 3RD PLACE - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] strange_powers keeps his side in contention for the title.

07. Dr John - "She's Just A Square": Never has being called a "square" seemed more insulting. Surely the best song on the soundtrack to that lost Blues Brothers movie, this is accompanied by all sorts of far-out and groovy instrumental Rhodes organ and flute flourishes. There's nothing particularly groundbreaking about this, but it's definitely a lot of fun. 5TH PLACE - WIN - buoyant performance makes [livejournal.com profile] bengraham sure of safety.

08. Charlie Christian - "Death Letter Blues": Oh god, a harrowing tale of death and despair over weary piano and muted trumpets. Almost spiritual in places, really. I don't really know enough jazz songstresses from the past, and after listening to this I feel that has to change. And the line at the end about wanting to take her sweet papa's place...good lord, pass me a tissue. 4TH PLACE - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] hauntedballroom's third win must surely make her safe from the drop?

09. Rocker Spaniel - "Where The..?": The storyteller in this certainly seems to be having "fun," but it's a tuneless, aimless "women in bikinis/uniforms using office stationery/garden tools/spelunking equipment in a sexually suggestive manner" type of fun that ends up being a bit sterile and not much fun at all. I must admit that I feel slightly violated. 11TH PLACE - LOSE - have [livejournal.com profile] zenith's high-flyers got altitude sickness?

10. Man Or Astro-Man - "Bermuda Triangle Shorts": Ridiculous soundbites, yay! I forgot to mention that I also love music that reminds me of surfing (which I also cannot do), but I feel that an extended guitar solo is a poor replacement for lyrics about the sun being high in the sky or catching waves or whatever. 7TH PLACE - DRAW - deserved draw for [livejournal.com profile] jel_bugle's team of entertainers.

11. Considering that this is sung from the viewpoint of a woman who eventually puts a bullet in her "dirty ho" best friend when said ho sleeps with her (the singer's) man (but NOT before making it VERY clear that she does not appreciate said friend using up her toilet paper), this could certainly have done with a bit more emotion, both in the vocal and the instrumentation. This is "Moodring" by Mya, and I DO applaud her thanking me for listening to her album at the end of the song; the world needs more polite popstars. 8TH PLACE - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson's fans left biting nails as play-offs threaten to slip away from them.

So far in Week 11 we've had a healthy haul for Epicharmus and almost nothing for Dubdobdee! Come on! Don't be scared!

Reveals at 4-ish.

Date: 2007-05-09 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
Okay, on track! I'm happy you liked mine.

Next week's submission is proving a challenge. You'll have something by tommorow!

Date: 2007-05-09 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
Or even by tomorrow.

Date: 2007-05-09 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Robbed! (It was The Timelords! Oh alright, I'll get my parka)

Date: 2007-05-09 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Surely everyone in the world knows this song!

(But what a song. Bloody brilliant)

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"mistakes were made"

Date: 2007-05-09 12:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-05-09 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hauntedballroom.livejournal.com
i found that line about taking her dead papa's place infinitely more creepy than the ligeti piece! i seem to finally be on a roll though.

Date: 2007-05-09 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhibitorylinks.livejournal.com
Maybe it is because I deal with other people's woes all day that I have developed a very soft heart for that sort of thing, whereas disembodied voices still give me some cause for concern. Hooray for your roll!
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
aargh if only I'd known you didn't like the Ligeti!! What ws 'scary' ws listening to this (really good) mix and seeing the track you chose being the longest by some distance (apart from of course sounding v odd one out in this company).

As far as next week - shouldn't be a problem, ws too fluey to go into my CD collection to find the track I have to rip. mp3 on the way soon-ish.

Apologies!

Date: 2007-05-09 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhibitorylinks.livejournal.com
I really was going to say that I didn't like the Ligeti following hauntedballroom's analysis last time round, but for whatever reason I...did not. The end. I promise to be more forthcoming in the future.

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Date: 2007-05-09 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Bums. So close to a win! I didn't realise it was Oi Va Voi until much later, as I found the track off this nice lady's website (http://www.sevara.uz/audio).

Date: 2007-05-09 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
Good lord she is gorgeous! What are you doing browsing Uzbek pop singers' websites?!

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Date: 2007-05-09 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
GETINTHEREMYSON!!!!! Graham eases relegation fears with narrow victory thanks to song about being a square!

Date: 2007-05-09 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
By the way, must give thanks to my "assistant manager" Andy. On Friday and Saturday, having still not submitted a track, I was staying round Andy's and separated from my music collection. I showed him [livejournal.com profile] inhibitorylinks's likes and dislikes and asked him to provide a selection of songs from which I could choose one to submit. Looks like the combined effort worked wonders!

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Date: 2007-05-09 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Bah! And haha I forgot Mya's thanks were at the end of the track.

The point of the song is that she's not emotional - she is a dignified ice queen who is staking out the moral high ground, rising above the whole sordid situation, emphasising her classiness in contrast to the dirty ho, she's not gon' diss her on the internet but she'll still shoot her in the head.

Date: 2007-05-09 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhibitorylinks.livejournal.com
Perhaps you are right! But I suppose I like my stories of murder and revenge to be told with a little more passion than is generally found in an Agatha Christie novel. Maybe even some more cymbal rolls would have done it for me!

haha ARE YOU SCARED?

Date: 2007-05-09 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
YOU SHOULD BE!!

To Hell With The Pop

Date: 2007-05-09 01:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Here are my very unconsidered rankings:

Winners:
--TRACK FOUR: Bits of space, the singers playing a relay game, someone lets notes fall, a pause, other voices pick it up. Intensity in its sparness, so it's the art music equivalent to "Me & U" and "Coz I Luv You," though I doubt the title will contain misspellings.
--TRACK FIVE: Horns weep from outer space. Eccentric melody lines cross measure bars, time sig something like 7/8, vocalists spray paint shards of passion.
--TRACK ONE: Gentle singing that's somewhat surprising in relation to the Moroder dance chug.
--TRACK THREE: OK, a lot of this is shit, the Dr. Who crap half ruining "Rock and Roll Pt. 2," but it is followed on by a beautiful Jamaican-style Morriconesque spare melody (prob'ly something as famous in Britain as the Gary Glitter song, but I don't know it). And when the Doc Who hooey returns the beautiful stuff is folded in and rescues it.
--TRACK NINE: A totally irritating neurotic self-involved young woman goes on about her petty and unpetty sorrows, round hard beats lend an air of ominousness that makes this compelling, and the menace allow me to imagine that this could be a slasher film and the woman will be stabbed to death, though no such luck.

Draw:
--TRACK SEVEN: A full-of-himself freak does a beatnik soul version of "I Hear You Knockin'." Bohos being dumbos, but the boho posturing carries itself with snide authority.

Re: To Hell With The Pop

Date: 2007-05-09 01:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Its sparness = its spareness (but perhaps there's sparness as well)

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to hell with the BOSH

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b-bosh (anag, 5)

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delia DUB-byshire more like

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law-an-order law-an-order

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Date: 2007-05-09 02:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Losers, though they are fine:
--TRACK ELEVEN: An r&b diva enrolls in drama school and is cast as the lead in a German expressionist version of Pandora's Box.
--TRACK TWO: Pretty plinks, w/ the rhythm suggesting a potential for roughness. But this ends up as a rowboat on a smooth lake, and the rough weather that the bass had promised never materializes.
--TRACK EIGHT: Sophisticated urban blues from between the wars. Powerful voice, smart eyes, rough grain, slow exposition. Too slow.
--TRACK SIX: The singing is a fake lifeless croon, and though the music gathers nicely, strings and beats and all, it can't overcome the vocals.
--TRACK TEN: The "Wipe Out" drum part in an updated setting, good whipslinger guitar tone, but it doesn't find its way into enough of a riff or a tune.

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Date: 2007-05-09 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
Mid-table obscurity beckons. Huzzah!

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mullah resmat speaks

Date: 2007-05-09 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
puny westerners with your so-called TASTE our revenge shall be SWIFT o yes

Re: mullah resmat speaks

Date: 2007-05-09 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
Dooset daram "dooset daram," actually, although it sounds very very (very) familiar despite the farsi. What is it a cover of?

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Rocker Spaniel?

Date: 2007-05-09 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
Who/what is this?

Re: Rocker Spaniel?

Date: 2007-05-09 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
Someone played at a club night I was at in Chicago and then put it on a mix CD for me... The internet knows NOTHING and in fact I had to put in some work to find out the name of the artist/track! All I know is it is a woman who resides in Los Angeles.

Ida Cox, not Charlie Christian?

Date: 2007-05-09 04:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Surely there's too little guitar for "Death Letter Blues" to have been credited to Christian when it was released. I don't recognize the singer, but a quick Websearch suggests that it's Ida Cox.

Re: Ida Cox, not Charlie Christian?

Date: 2007-05-09 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
That's how I tagged mine too.

You Can't Get Good Riblets in Space

Date: 2007-05-09 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jel-bugle.livejournal.com
Phew, the rot has stopped.

dubdobdee is my easiest choice ever. I haven't read his blurb yet!

If it had been me...

Date: 2007-05-09 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Only just got round to listening to these.

*OK this next bit is being typed before reading Mr Links' reviews and rankings*

I already knew "Doctorin' the Tardis" (OK, still amusing but easily the worst thing the KLF ever did) and guessed Mya even before the reveal at the end of the track (I have probably heard this once on a listening post, but can't really say I know it)

My winners would be:

05 - I can be allergic to jazzy breakbeat stuff, but this is great. Love the arrangement in particular, but the vocals are nice too. Arabic or Israeli? I'm guessing the latter.

07 - "Crazy, man." "I'm hip"

11 - Mya (why I don't yet own Moodring, the album, is a mystery).

02 - Twinkly waltz. Twee sci-fi, if that's possible. Nice and short!

08 - very old blues-ballad. I like the trumpet playing on this more than the singer.

and 6th place goes to:

09 - "You guys are awesome!" Another short one - just as well, since this would get very very annoying indeed I suspect, if longer. But I like the electronics and the beats, and 2'27" of this singer is fine by me.

*scrolls up*

Ah, Luigi Nono, of course. I can take or leave him as a rule. This was OK, but I guess I wasn't really in the mood for Nono today.

Man or Astroman? might have just grabbed a win on another day. I like the idea of what they do more than the execution though. This track was solid, but there's something about it that made me wary of it too.

Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-05-10 02:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Arabic or Israeli?

British, actually; but Jewish.

Date: 2007-05-09 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisa-go-blind.livejournal.com
I'm so glad to see Ben post a Dr John track. I had considered submitting something by him myself, but nothing ever seemed right. Although I didn't know this particular song before, it's already one of my favorite LoP discoveries.

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