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The verdict from [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson!

(I still need a good few Week 6 tracks! Will try and send out reminders tonight)

"Overall I'm super-pleased with the CD: the opening double whammy in particular put a very wide grin on my face when I first listened to it, and it's not often I ever grin during the freezing cold walk across London Fields to catch my bus in the morning. The good definitely outweighs the bad, though I must say I was hoping that more people would take advantage of my famed lack of knowledge about The Past, eg more in the vein of the big disco number."

Track 1

01. Ron Hardy - "Sensation (Edit)": What an awesome start! Big pumping beat followed by massive-voiced disco diva stomping in and belting out stuff about love/darkest dreams/sensations/fantasy/ecstasy/mystery for all she's worth. I'm guessing this is 70s disco proper, very sound tactics as it's a genre I love but have barely scraped the surface of. Full-blooded and full-bodied, and the only flaw is that it ends just when you've started looking forward to it lasting for about another five minutes. 2nd place - WIN - fans jubilant as [livejournal.com profile] hauntedballroom gets off the mark with convincing win.

02. The Pack - "Go": Haha zenith has done to me as I did to him - awesome example of a crunk banger here. Oh my god the distorted kid's voices from Dizzee Rascal's '2 Far' have shown up for the chorus to talk about money and weed and hoes, fantastic, really catchy too. I don't recognise any of the rappers but one of them sounds endearingly pleased with himself for using the word "shagging". 1st place - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] zenith cruises to thumping win.

03. Gyptian - "Is There A Place": Loverman reggae-lite, like Wayne Wonder or someone...completely basic skanking riddim topped off by very sincere, very sweet vocal. The kind of thing that passes me by in a cloud of pleasantness if I'm not paying attention, usually on the radio, throughout the entire summer; it's like when you're on a beach and everything seems a bit too distant to really focus on. But equally it's the kind of thing which seeps into you gradually until you realise several months later that you're completely in love with it. 4th place - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] xyzzzz_ gets tactics right again.

04. Lax - "Forget You": Cod-crunk synths, an insistent two-note guitar riff, lots of r'n'b affectations...this is OK, you know, but it all hinges slightly uncomfortably, as if she's...European or something. The explosion into the rock chorus isn't really what it needs, it hasn't got a big enough hook to pull off the transition and feels a bit Sellotaped together. Reminds me of Stacie Orrico in her less stellar moments, ie 80% of the time. 6th place - DRAW - a point for [livejournal.com profile] katstevens but the pressure is mounting.

05. Robyn Loau - "Sick With Love": Amazing strings to start, and indeed throughout! And her voice is nicely restrained in the verse. It's a pity first about the ver serious, very claustrophobic (in a heavy-handed, obvious sort of way) drumming, then the full-on way it reveals itself to be a standard-issue late-90s goth track, like a precursor to Evanescence without even the mildly mitigating pop sensibility. The sort of thing that I discovered when I got on the internet that, sadly, other Tori Amos fans tended to like. The "LOVE HATE DEGENERATE" chant makes me freeze in disbelief and horror. 9th place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] inhibitorylinks falls apart in the final third.

06. Cath Carroll - "To Close Your Eyes Forever": Pretty, in a haunting way, for about a minute, before I realised with a sinking heart that nothing further was going to happen: mannered vocalist continues to look down her nose at the song happening somewhere beneath her, though who can blame her when that song mostly consists of dodgy, slightly Celtic 'atmospheres', New Age flutes of some sort, and a dodgy plinky-plonk keyboard line which recurs at random intervals. And it goes on for six bloody minutes! 10th Place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee all over the place in heavy loss.

07. Mylene Farmer - "Plus Grandir (Nouvean Mix)": Well, this is odd! Cavernous and awesome dance noises made me think it was going to be some sort of house track for the first 30 seconds, at which point it turned into a very lovely, if very unexpected, slice of sweet French pop. The vocalist sounds like a slightly more refined version of Laetitia Sadier; I love the breathy, hesitant, up-and-down verses a lot, more than the slightly too smooth chorus. 5th place - WIN - smooth win preserves [livejournal.com profile] strange_powers' unbeaten record.

08. IamX - "Nightlife": Oh god, indie dance. If it helps I probably know lots of people who would totally love this, it brings up a fair few memories of me exiting the dancefloor post-haste at the first sound of those out-of-tune shaggy-indie-boy vocals only to turn round to find certain of my crew going nuts for it. He sounds like the bloke out of The Music, this is not a compliment. I guess the bits when he's not singing, if I ignore the cheapo drum sounds and the not-treated-enough guitars, are pretty good. Yes this leaves hardly any of it but we take what we can, eh. 8th place - LOSE - direct tactics fail to pay off for [livejournal.com profile] fugitivemotel

09. Eve ft Missy Elliott - "Ain't Got No Dough": Haha whoever picked this is either very blase and very lucky, or is a stalker who has investigated my record collection very thoroughly! I recognised Missy on the chorus immediately, Eve by the second verse, and helpfully Missy confirms both of these towards the end (as well as producer Swizz Beatz). This is really good ranty ho-rap, more ladies throwing their weight around than cheerfully throwing their legs up like Kim or Trina, sounds like it's from the late 90s or early 00s; but seriously, how did anyone guess that Eve is basically the only female rapper I don't own the back catalogue of? Not through design, I've been meaning to buy it up for ages. 3rd place - WIN - big money signings come good for [livejournal.com profile] braisedbywolves

10. Dragonforce - "Once In A Lifetime": This is...metal. Of some sort. I think. The opening guitar solo alone gave me a migraine and then it got really really fast and made my stomach feel queasy, and then a man started screeching. This is the only one I couldn't get to the end of - I even stuck the Celtic bobbins out, through a sense of duty - so apologies if this turns into hott r&b in the last minute. But I think someone must have submitted the wrong track :( 11th place - LOSE - massive defeat for [livejournal.com profile] jel_bugle but the fans still love him.

11. Antonia - "My Friends Are All Hotties": High-school teenpop which is certainly pleasant enough, but it's a slightly bland example of the genre; the singer is trying to sell herself as some sort of Miss Popular, with everyone wanting to be her friend, but she's not convincing because she sounds like a nice, sincere girl who'd no sooner think of snubbing a less pretty girl than she would of eating a baby. 7th place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] bengraham's side pays for lack of killer instinct.

Date: 2007-04-05 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
i am guessing it is jel's unapologetic offer -- either way i loved it! truly he is the poptimist's poptimist (unless it's someone else's)

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Date: 2007-04-05 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jel-bugle.livejournal.com
Glad some folks liked it! Dragonforce rule, though I do kinda blame them for wrecking my hearing when I saw them live.

Date: 2007-04-05 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Yes! About fvcking time!

Date: 2007-04-05 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Mine was the Eve, I wuv Eve, and I remembered back during the Now polls that she never really took off over here until the Gwen single, and that a surprising number of poptimists hadn't gone back to pick up the first album.

I am mostly pointing this out ahead of time to avoid anyone thinking that I put forward the celticism.

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Date: 2007-04-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
haha oops i suspect i just got "10th place lose" there :(

Date: 2007-04-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
Stunna, dummy, yellow bus. Mission accomplished!

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Date: 2007-04-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Bums, I think I've lost again! But at least you didn't know my track already Lex!

Date: 2007-04-05 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
superb.

fif! teen! minutes of fame!
[does goth dance]

Date: 2007-04-05 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
It basically sounded like a dance remix of an indie song? From a couple of years ago...quite a few were doing the rounds in this vein, the Black Strobe remix of White Rose Movement, the JLC remix of The Music &c &c &bloodyc.

Date: 2007-04-05 10:48 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
hehe! Unblooded, Unbowed, Unbroken!

lex, you missed the guitars making horse sounds at the end of the song!

peace, jel

If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-05 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Netiquette forbids that I should name names (or numbers rather) but there a couple of really really TERRIBLE tracks in this bunch, I thought. What on earth have the Pop Premiership clubs been spending all their TV rights money on? Clearly not on players! ;)

I already knew the Eve & Missy track. Five others stood out:
03 the reggae one
04 regarding which my notes say 'teenpop'(?)
07 which I'm guessing is Mylene Farmer
08 the one Lex dismisses as indie dance. Possibly I was swayed by a rare appearance of a male vocalist, a refreshing change.
10 the Metal one - some nice shredding in the middle there.

Re: to close yr eyes forever

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Re: to close yr eyes forever

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yes alex yes she was

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Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-05 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Yeah No 4 could have been teenpop - though I would not be surprised if it was an elderly Robyn track actually.

I am in meetings all day aargh! I can't wait to find out who my favourites are by. My only other note is, I am surprised at how few people seemed to pay attention to my list of what I like...

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Date: 2007-04-05 02:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
I probably have to type like a whirlwind before Tom posts names, so... fave was the Missy-Eve-Swizz and I'll be very embarrassed if it turns out I own it, given that I didn't recognize it (is it on one of the later Ruff Ryders comps? if it's from the first Eve album then I'm embarrassed; there's a moment when the two sound like Salt N Pepa together. (There's a goth-metal girl who went pop last year trying to sound like Salt N Pepa; I won't say her name in case I use her in the Chart Championships, but surprisingly she doesn't sound altogether unlike this.) Second and third faves in a dead heat would be Track Two (Too Short type, hyphy minimalism [don't take my genre designations too seriously since for me hyphy, crunk, and snap have all become a mix-up], the greatest thing is the deep-voiced bullfrog rapper, playing the same role as the bass voice in old doo-wop) and Track Four, which sounds like a band of JoJos. I might go with the confessional teenpop Track Eleven next, though I agree with Lex that there are much stronger examples of the form. Then the woman singing "Love, hate, radiate" on Track Five, singing smooth alienation and it's definitely a grower, falls between too stools in chill and passion, might be effective that way; needs more listens. Then for the draw I'll go with that fierce house Track One, which impresses me for mixing some freestylish hooks with acid dissonances and diva blaring; problem is that the diva misses as many notes as she hits, though as I was saying on the Chart Championship thread yesterday, sometimes that's a problem for me and sometimes it isn't and I'm not sure why it is on this.

Good quality throughout; the reggae-r&b amalgam (Track Three) needed a more compelling melody, as did the French breather in Track Seven (I'd guess Mylene too, but this is not my field so I'm just popping in a familiar name), but those two are pretty likable for bringing up the rear. Tracks Eight and Six could grow on me; the latter was interesting in its slowness except I wasn't engaged by where it was slowly moving from or two; Track Eight is rock more than indie (I don't generally call indie "indie rock" because indie doesn't generally rock). The happy progcore one (Track Ten) hits my funny bone more than my feeling bone but it's nice energy. Um, I think I've mentioned them all now.

Date: 2007-04-05 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Yay, I'm glad people like my LAX track! Even if I am at the bottom of the premiership now :-) I would have thought you would have heard it already, Frank?

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LAX

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Re: My runners and riders

Date: 2007-04-05 02:50 pm (UTC)
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it's kind of cusp-of-disco-and-house more than 'classic disco', but maybe the 1985 dateline is confusing me

Definitely house more than "classic disco," but I'm upset that so many people ran away from the term "disco" after 1979. House really is a form of disco. But then I'd say that rave is a form of rock, so don't listen to me. (I'd rather that we used the term "rock" for stuff like rave than for stuff like alternative and indie, that's for sure.) And I'd call the Backstreet Boys and *NSync disco as well.

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Date: 2007-04-06 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
Yes, I kind of agree on Gyptian - there is a better track from him, but he does utter his own name so thought the lex might have it/or remember it, so on balance I went for "Is there a Place?" hoping the voice would carry it.

Date: 2007-04-05 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Ha! I own two of these but didn't manage to recognize 'em: the Eve, which is from 1999 but I tend to play "Maniac" and "Gotta Man" and "Dogg Match" from that alb and have forgotten the rest; and the Pack track, which is called "Oh Go," which I only had a chance to hear a couple of times when I was reviewing "Ride My Bike" for PTW. Obviously will want to give that CD a bunch more spins (don't think Too Short is actually on that track, but the alb is on his label). Competitors note: the way to score points with me is to pick tracks I've forgotten from albums I already own!

Date: 2007-04-05 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
Yeah, I just found out today that wherever I downloaded that Pack track song from misnamed it. All three songs by them that I've heard I have absolutely loved (the others being 'Vans' and 'Club Stuntin' on the Traxamillion album); I'm very keen to hear more...

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Date: 2007-04-05 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
hauntedballroom if you have an unedited 'Sensation' that would probably be the best thing ever.

close to the edit

Date: 2007-04-05 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hauntedballroom.livejournal.com
hi alex - there is an unedited version, but i've never been able to find it either on the net or in a shop! i do have a longer (9mins) dub version, which is less immediate (though it still has the vocals), but i can email that to you if you like

also you should check out ron hardy's 80s mixtapes if you can, which are pretty easily available on the net and brilliant

Robyn Loau? Goth?

Date: 2007-04-05 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhibitorylinks.livejournal.com
She was in Australia's first manufactured girl-band, who went by the rather uninspiring name of Girlfriend. Their trademark was wearing floppy hats with flowers on them.

I guess I never thought of this song as overly serious, as whenever I saw a live performance of it, Ms Loau was donned up in a big disco wig and dancing over the stage as if it was electrocuted. OH WELL can't win 'em all etc.

Re: Robyn Loau? Goth?

Date: 2007-04-05 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umlauts.livejournal.com
I warned you Lex was indie, now, and wouldn't appreciate the genius of "Sick With Love" (everyone, it IS a grower). He may have preferred the slightly more R&B follow up single.

Date: 2007-04-06 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
BANG!

Get in! [livejournal.com profile] strange_powers runs back down the dancefloor with his shirt over his head.

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