Poptimist THORT For The Day

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

"quality, though it exists, is not a poptimist concern"

So sez jauntyalan - what say you?

(The Poptimist TFTDs will be drawn from that text poll I did last week about "Poptimist Tenets")

Comments

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I don't believe that anyone IS the most undiscerning (especially not the average listener/man in street/kidz on bus), I don't believe it's possible except as a deliberate self-conscious (and also probably false) position. So I'm not particularly interested in lack of discernment!

I always thought that poptimism wasn't so much doing away with the good-bad axis as acknowledging the presence (sometimes simultaneous) of multiple contradictory good/bad axes.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LEX?

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

i. Lex as analyst: "the presence (sometimes simultaneous) of multiple contradictory good/bad axes."

ii. Lex as polemicist / stylist: X is good and Y is bad.

I don't see these as inherently contradictory since they imply two different relations to the world, and not the attempt to substitute one for the other. The problem with a lot of pop-write is that it doesn't see the difference and thinks that ii. is the analytical position.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Yes yes I was just teasing (though Lex tends to couch things in terms both moralistic and manichaean - "these things are disgusting and can never be good, these things are blessed and can never be bad").

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I wonder if, now Lex can MAKE FIRE, he has fallen from this state of grace.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I got even more drunk the following night, which was marked by a total RETURN to the moralistic black-and-white attitude ie being very very rude to random strangers in the pub over matters including but not limited to what songs they wanted us to put on the jukebox :D

(they wanted Stone Roses, we put on Aaliyah and Ellen Allien)

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

OLD news

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/afarrell/105332897/)

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

The problem with a lot of people on the internet is that they don't see the difference re me!

(everything lex writes = influenced by multiple contradictory impulses with no attempt made to hide the inconsistencies)

(I can still get away with the indie-hate when being lex-analyst as it scores as bad on every imaginable axis)

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

Well 'indie = bad' is the foundational principle without which the universe collapses in on itself and boils away into darkness.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Even I know that.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I would say that unless the inconsistencies are highlighted (not that the eternal teasing-out of same is something that I necc. find that interesting) the natural assumption of the reader is that everything's supposed to be consistent. Though it's possible that I'm biased because most of the time I've met you, you've been plastered in no state to brook cracks in the facade.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I say on many occasions that I know I'm inconsistent and contradictory and that I embrace it!

When was that AWFUL picture of me taken? It couldn't have been last Fri because I hadn't taken my contacts out at that point. God I look like a tramp. Please to delete.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

It's over a year ago, at the Shimura Curves DJ set at um, that pub south of Angel (past the Red Lion Theatre Bar)?

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

I say on many occasions that I know I'm inconsistent and contradictory and that I embrace it!

In print or in person? I'm not sure I've ever heard you, just translated your confidence into certainty.