Jop Tournament Round 2.2

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The second half of round 2!

I think for round 3 rather than trot through more one-on-one matches there might well be some kind of second group stage. We will see on Thursday!


[Poll #926319]


And now over to Lex for the spluttering with horror viewpoint.

Comments

[koganbot]

I wouldn't call either Ashlee or Lindsay descendants of Sheryl, they're not inoffensively MOR enough, Sheryl has never been about the Punk Rock.

You're looking too much at the signifiers. Look at album credits, and start with the name John Shanks.

This is a whole other story, but the Punk Rock Movement and the punk rock I love are pretty much at odds with another, the former doing great damage to the latter. I mean, Stevie Nicks is MOR rock (forget the adjective "inoffensive"; it's a red herring; like, inoffensive to whom?), and she once called herself the anti-punk, which just means she's got no self-knowledge, because she can virulent in both word and groove and she's way more punk rock to me than the Clash are. (Doesn't mean the Clash are worse than she is. Just that they're doing something different.)

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

OK you win! Or at least I probably didn't have much of an argument beyond "when I was growing up, people like Tori and Alanis and Courtney were aligned with each other, and even though this was blatantly untrue sonically I'd always assumed they must have shared a pool of influences, which I'd thrown the Breeders into on the basis that they did the whole fierce-emotional-grrrl-with-guitar thing a few years before the people I cited" - of the female singers you cited as Courtney predecessors I'm only really familiar with Patti Smith.