Jop Tournament Round 2.2

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The second half of round 2!

I think for round 3 rather than trot through more one-on-one matches there might well be some kind of second group stage. We will see on Thursday!


[Poll #926319]


And now over to Lex for the spluttering with horror viewpoint.

Comments

[koganbot]

I'm still not following. It's Courtney's singing that Ashlee's taking off on, which has nothing to do with Kim's on "Cannonball," which is mostly this girly dreaminess, w/ punky squeaks thrown in. Courtney precedes the Breeders and is coming from Sex Pistols and hardcore and - ultimately - the Stones (Grace Slick a key predecessor but don't know if she was an influence; if you're looking for punk-as-such female-vocal influences on Courtney they're probably Patti Smith and Poly Styrene and Joan Jett). I don't know. Are there interviews where Courtney is citing Kim? I'm not hearing an iota of "Cannonball" in "You Oughta Know," either. Alanis's marbles-in-the-mouth-harshness was there in her early '90s dancepop tracks, believe it or not. She precedes the Breeders too, and I don't think she got the singing style from Black Francis. Maybe from Dory Previn and Marianne Faithfull and k8. She reminds me of Dolores O'Riordan a lot more than of Kim Deal, actually. I don't own any Breeders albums, so maybe haven't heard the right Kim Deal vocals, but from what I have heard Kim's deliberately low on affect, not going for the riot grrrrl squawl or the cutting angry-singer-songwriter bitchout. And I don't hear anything remotely like Kim in Avril's singing, either. Why would you think Kim rather than, I don't know, Heart or Stevie Nicks?

I tie Ashlee to Alanis more through lyrics - Ashlee says that "You Learn" was one of her favorite songs when she was ten: the woman on a self-critical adventure through life and boyfriends, Ashlee (or Ashlee-Kara-John) being Alanis with a brain.